Is this a real Fender Jazz bass?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Simski, Dec 20, 2014.

  1. Hello everyone

    I have a question you might be able to help me with regarding an old bass I bought long ago. The story goes as follows:

    Some ten years ago when I were much younger and naive, I had an idea of becoming a rock star (like everybody else really) and started getting a bunch of gear in anticipation of my imminent breakthrough, amongst which was an old seventies Fender Jazz Bass... or so I was told.

    The seller was an old musician with an expert knowledge of electric instruments and I had no reason not to trust him when he said he had a seventies Jazz for sale. However, the neck plate with the serial number had been replaced by a previous owner and so its true age could not be identified but he pointed out various other things that apparently proved its age and American production, such as a couple of stamps on the neck and the type of pickups. Being young and naive, I bought it. In hindsight, it may not have been a good idea since in the case of a resale I would have to be able to prove that it actually was a Fender Jazz Bass from the mid-seventies.

    So - can anyone help me get some information on whether or not it is an actual Fender from that era? I won't get mad if it isn't because it is a really good instrument but I'd like some info if the situation arose and I had to sell it.

    A previous owner had the original finish covered in red paint which I subsequently stripped and gave a sunburst finish.

    I would appreciate any help you can give me.
    Thanks
     

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  2. Johnny Alien

    Johnny Alien Supporting Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Harrisburg, PA, USA
    Some photos of the electronics would help but just off of the photos you have shown it looks correct. Sadly with the plate gone, the neck code half gone and the refinish I doubt it will hold much value.
     
  3. Turock

    Turock

    Apr 30, 2000
    Melnibone
    Unless faked, the J Torres neck stamp would indicate that is a 70's Fender neck.
     
  4. A quick glance tells me its legit. Agree with the statements about refin etc, but I think it will hold some value as a player, provided it plays well. If I were looking to buy, I imagine I'd pay $1,200-$1,500 for that, before I'd buy a new Fender Jazz. There are not many new Fenders that have impressed me.

    I agree though, to a collector it's a bust.
     
  5. Thank you for your quick replys. I will try to get some pictures of the insides but I have mislaid my screwdrivers so that's going on the to-do list. In case of a resale, I realize that I won't be in a good bargaining position and will have to take a lower price for it than I gave for it but that's ok, I guess.
     
  6. The Bass Clef

    The Bass Clef is modulating in time. Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Southern California
    In the first pic you can see that the neck pocket is a bit wider than the neck, which is typical for the era. So that adds credibility to the body for me. Do you remember what the neck pocket looked like, or have a pic? You can know exactly what you have if you want to take the neck off and take pics of the body cavites, electronics, and bridge removed.
     
  7. s2bs2

    s2bs2

    Apr 1, 2009
    Sonoma, CA.
    I have that same neck on a custom Jbass that I bought years ago. I always thought it was a fake, but didn't care 'cuz it was great and I got it for a decent price. Nice to see someone else with one.
     
  8. OldDirtyBassist

    OldDirtyBassist Guest

    Mar 13, 2014
    There's a couple Thinline Tele's in the Fender book with that exact sunburst.
     
  9. I didn't know many Fender instruments had neck binding......
     
  10. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Probably a '70 or '71 Jazz neck and tuners. The rest is undatable from the photos.
     
  11. moonshinegtrs

    moonshinegtrs Inactive Commercial User

    Jan 28, 2009
    White Bluff,Tn.
    Owner: Moonshine Custom Guitars
    Really? There were Blocks & Binding long before there were just Blocks...

    I believe that binding came along right before CBS took over.

    Moonshine :bassist:
     
  12. JIO

    JIO Scott Lives Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    The Mission SF/CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    after - dot & binding on a Jazz for the first 6 months of 1966 and b&b after through the 70's
     
  13. big_teee

    big_teee

    Sep 16, 2014
    Mid-South USA
    If the Pickups are original?
    There should be date codes on the bottom of each pickup.
    If Seventies era, the pickup forbon fiber will be grey, and the wire will be plastic, or Teflon.
    Should be the last 2 numbers on the right.
    http://s7.photobucket.com/user/kevin_lindsay/media/1974 Fender Jazz Bass/CIMG0068.jpg.html
    If the rubber pads under the pickups are turning to goo, I would change them, it will only get worse.
    GL,
    T
    **I rewound a pair of 74 J-Bass Pickups in 2010 for a bass that had a neck similar to that.
     
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  14. MIMike

    MIMike

    Jan 1, 2013
    West MI
    This looks like a early seventies based on the fact that it is NOT a bullet trus rod, but has the white binding and pearl blocks. Black binding and blocks on maple necks pre-dated the white binding/pearl block versions in the very early 70's. I'm guessing it is a 72 or 73, but others may be able to pinpoint the period of four bolt necks with white binding (on maple neck) better than me.
     
  15. OldDirtyBassist

    OldDirtyBassist Guest

    Mar 13, 2014
    In awe of this bass..
     
  16. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    Having owned a sunburst '75 in the early '80's, it all appears good to me. What everybody else said about double checking the electronics for both date markings and any deterioration that needs attention.
     
  17. Hi everybody - once again thank you all for replying. Christmas time is a bit time consuming but I will try to get a look at the pickups (as far as I know they are all original) and electronics and check the stamps. If there were any stamps in the cavities, they have probably been ruined from the refinishings I'm afraid.
     
  18. The Bass Clef

    The Bass Clef is modulating in time. Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Southern California
    The neck is circa 1974/75. It would have black blocks & binding before '74 and would have a bullet truss rod by mid '75.
     
  19. So I had a chance to take a few photos of the pickups. I was a bit surprised to see that the pickups had different bobbin material. The bridge pickup bobbin was made of a grey material and the neck pickup was made a black material. I'm guessing this means that at least one of the pickups is not original?

    Is it possible to date the bass by looking at the pots?
     

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  20. Oren Hudson

    Oren Hudson

    Dec 25, 2007
    Gastonia, NC
    Yes, assuming they've not be changed.