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Is this a ticket?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by kserg, Nov 3, 2005.


  1. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
    it was a stop sign (2way) on crossing streets... I stopped looked around and saw a car coming down very slow... he was close but he was going around 3mph and pulling over... I went ahead and crossed... the car turned out to be a cop who gave me a ticket for "failure to stop on a stop sign". And told me that if he would have continued to go we would have crashed... (Total b.s. if he continued at speed he was going he would have gotten to intersection in maybe a half of minute).

    I don’t understand this... I didn’t argue... I probably won’t try to go to court over this because he got me... I lost... I’ll go to traffic school and won’t be speeding for next 18 months... but was he in anyway right to give me a ticket? I mean in reality I knew I was safe to cross... he said I wasn’t... in court my word won’t hold plus he was a sheriff...

    But in anyway why do I have to wait for a car to cross if car is going 3mph? Is that the rule?

    Cheeze... maybe you can help me out on explaining it...

    Cheers
     
  2. You should of flirted.
     
  3. His car was still moving, technicality, but still the law, you should have sped off when he tried to pull you over
     
  4. DigMe

    DigMe

    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Just be glad he didn't smell the vodka on your breath.

    brad cook
     
  5. tplyons

    tplyons

    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    Did you come to a complete stop? Then it doesn't sound illegal to me.
     
  6. Vorago

    Vorago (((o)))

    Jul 17, 2003
    Antwerp, Belgium
    It's a ticket Kserg, but not as we know it..


    (I'm sorry, I just fellt like saying that today :D )
     
  7. did you roll the stop sign or come to a complete stop?
     
  8. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    A rolling stop is not a stop. While I think the ticket is ridiculous, it is a valid offense. If you didn't come to a complete stop, then you broke the law. Period.

    Technically, it's not legal to speed up to go through a yellow light, either. That's considered running a stop light. Gonna get ticketed often? Nope. Is it valid when you do get a ticket? Yep.
     
  9. Yup, there was one in the papers here yesterday, a guy was driving past some men who were working on the road, he slowed to 15-20 miles an hour, and hit a puddle, it spashed them, and he got a ticket for . . . inconsiderate driving!!!
     
  10. Chances are, there's nothing you can do. You were breaking the law and were caught red-handed. I know it sucks; It happens. People break laws all of the time in a harmless way, and some are unfortunate enough to run into law enforcers in the process. People do what you did all of the time. I've done it, and I'd imagine most people have. You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I havn't had a good TB rant in a long time, so I think that I will start one now. :)

    My friend was just picked up right from my dorm last weekend. (What has the world come to when even your home isn't safe?) I went to the bathroom for a minute, when I came back she was gone. Apparently she went downstairs for some reason, fell on the stairs and pushed the emergency help button, and instead of helping her, the cop came and busted her. :mad: She spent the night in jail, and is now most likely looking at 60 hours of community service+ASAP+$250-driver's liscense for a year. Did the cop try to help her? Did he try to get her back to my room where she would be safe? No. Would she have been MUCH better off having never called for help in the first place? Absolutely. Cops are not there to help or to ensure the safety of their constituents. They do just the opposite more often than not.

    I really wish that those in charge of enforcing laws would try to do so in a way that helps people instead of hurts them. Face it, cops are not your friend. They are not there to help, unless you happen to have been robbed/attacked etc. They are there to harm you and to mess with your life without necesity. I remember once where my dad was in a sketchy situation and was to pick up my brother's phone which was being held at ransom by some sketchy individuals. (the appropriate response would be to leave it on the Metro.) The cops wouldn't help; apparently they were too busy dealing with underage drinkers and people who run stop signs. Who is it that I realistically fear running into late at night? I'll give you a hint: it's not a mugger.
     
  11. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio
    It's not a "good" ticket, in my book. That is, one that was completely deserved, but, if you came to a stop sign and didn't make a complete stop, then it is technically a violation.
     
  12. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio

    Good luck with that attitude.
     
  13. all IME, of course.
     
  14. cheezewiz

    cheezewiz

    Mar 27, 2002
    Ohio

    Well then, since it is IME, broad and untrue generalizations are OK then. Again, good luck with that attitude.
     
  15. bassmonkeee

    bassmonkeee Supporting Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Decatur, GA
    Maybe it's your approach that is causing the friction with the police. Just like every other manner of person, be it musician, doctor, sales clerk, stripper, etc, there are cool cops, and there are cops who are poopheads. If you act like they are ALL poopheads, guess how they are more likely to react? :eyebrow:

    I've found that a simple, "Evening, Officer" goes a long way towards making my life easier.
     
  16. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
    :) ...funny thing was... when he looked in my jeep first 2 things he saw was empty beer cans in the back and empty shotgun shells... It was all the trash i havent thrown away from camping trip (we leave no trash behind and well some of that stuff wasnt even mine... just random things i picked up on dirt roads...) :)

    When he asked me about it i told him its just old trash from camping but it did help me because someone broke into my car week ago saw all that and just went "he has nothing in here" and left:)
     
  17. Aren't you in some kind of internship having to do with public service?? Just wondering how the frame of mind illustrated above meshes with the other cogs.

    Mike

    edit: kserg: I've gotten my share of crap tickets. Most notable was a "dog-leg right" intersection in New Orleans. To turn right (the only way to go), you must stop fully at the stop sign. There is no way any law abiding driver can hit you even if you run the stop sign. Those coming the opposite direction have a "dog-leg" left. There is no stop sign for that lane. The entire scenario makes no sense. But once a month one of Jefferson Parish's finest stands about 10 ft out of view and waits for idiots like myself to tempt fate. Once you've commited the act, he walks into the road, blocking it, and points at you and the parking space he'd like you to take....next to the 5 other guys who are all waiting to get a their tickets written. Life sucks.
     
  18. kserg

    kserg

    Feb 20, 2004
    London, UK
    To be clear... i think you guys misunderstood... i did make a stop... what he said is that i should have waited for him to pass before i went... even though he was moving 3-5 mph... Of course his logic was "if i was moving faster i would have hit him".

    I allready excepted the fact that i wont fight it because its my word against his... Its my first ticket in 5 years and well my 8th all together so not bad... i guess i wont be speeding for next 18 months:/

    I am not really complaining... I just wish ticket was for something i really deserve and well that was my question... is there anything in the books that says that what i did was wrong...


    PS
    I wish all the cop bashing would not be in here... This was not my antent. I just want to know if i really did anything wrong...

    We all see the bad things about cops... its sad that because of a small minority of ***holes in the force we judge it all as so. Its even sadder that we have ***holes in force and that they have the power to change our opinions about it. All IMO of course.
     
  19. Nahh. I was an NRSC intern over the summer, which is strictly political in nature. (No interaction, as far as I can tell.)


    PS: Kserg, I am sorry about derailing your thread. I'm just upset over some recent experiences and it came out in an angry rant here.
     
  20. burk48237

    burk48237 Supporting Member

    Nov 22, 2004
    Oak Park, MI
    K, I would go to court on this one. A clean record is worth a considerable amount of money these days on your car insurance. At worst, throw yourself at the mercy of the court. You may get off with a warning or a reduced "no points" ticket. If the officer had to come to a hard stop to avoid hitting you, I'd go the mercy route. Be sure and tell the court you haven't had a ticket in five years and your trying to be a careful driver. Whatever you do don't make excuses and don't blame the officer or imply that he was out to get you. Judges or magistrates don't usually take kindly to that. It's also possible the officer won't show, in which case you'll go home a happy man.