Is this neck salvageable?

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by cornfarmer, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. cornfarmer

    cornfarmer jam econo

    May 14, 2002
    Jazz bass neck, with a crack in the center of the fretboard, near the nut & first fret. Truss rod/bullet looks like it's poking way forward from where it should normally be, there's a bow in the neck that won't pull back down - I'm guessing the truss snapped / is broken.

    I have competent luthiers at my disposal, just wondering at face value if this is more complicated than replacing the truss and mending the cracks.


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  2. There are likely to be neck issues. Someome has tightened that truss rod up pretty tight. May be compressed wood where the nut presses on the maple in the neck. Is the neck straight with the truss rod nut loose?
    Edit. Just saw the bow in the neck in the op. Yes, its a bigger fix. Does the truss rod work at all? Or can you tell?
     
  3. cornfarmer

    cornfarmer jam econo

    May 14, 2002
    The truss doesn't adjust the height/relief of the neck currently. Would installing a new truss rod bring the neck back to being adjustable? I don't know anything beyond that because I've never had to replace one.
     
  4. Most likely the reason it broke is because the trussrod cannot handle the pressure exerted by the bow plus the strings. The neck will either need to be heated and straightened and truss rod replaced or machined flat and truss rod replaced. Warpedneck.com can help with heat treatment. Show us back of neck. I've seen several of those fender trussrods replaced by machining out the anchor and replacing. It's still money but i prefer that to removing the fretboard. More folks will be by to help. Some may even try to sell you a service.
     
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  5. Bruce Johnson

    Bruce Johnson Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 4, 2011
    Fillmore, CA
    Professional Luthier
    Cornfarmer;

    The thing to understand here is that the Fender truss rod isn't designed to straighten out a seriously bowed neck. It doesn't have the strength or power to do that. Your neck has a bad bow, and somebody tried to use the truss rod to straighten it. It crushed in, and is damaged. And the neck is still bowed.

    If you simply replaced the truss rod, the new one would do the same thing. It would crush in or snap. It's not made to straighten a bowed neck.

    This neck needs a rebuild. The bow need to be straightened, either by heat-bending or by re-machining. And, the truss rod needs to be replaced/rebuilt.

    If you have a pro Luthier rebuild this neck, it will cost $300-$500. You have to weigh that against the value of the neck vs buying another neck.

    You can do the work yourself, but it's not a beginner-level job. There are a bunch of threads here on TB where folks have rebuilt necks and replaced truss rods themselves. It can be done.

    But I just wanted to make the point that you have to do more than replace the truss rod. You have to fix the bowed neck.

    (Note to bobdabuilder: I'm not trying to sell my services. I no longer do truss rod replacements/neck rebuilds for individual owners; only for other Luthiers. I'm just trying to offer helpful advice.)
     
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  6. Axstar

    Axstar Inactive

    Jul 8, 2016
    Scotland.
    Not the first block'd Fender neck I've seen done this. It isn't too rare an issue, if that is any consolation!
     
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  7. cornfarmer

    cornfarmer jam econo

    May 14, 2002
    So I've taken the neck to a local pro (fully vetted) and after he benched it, he's pretty sure some extra washers are going to solve the problem. We'll see.....
     
  8. cornfarmer

    cornfarmer jam econo

    May 14, 2002
    So it turns out the truss is toast and basically so is the neck. The previous owner went too far trying to compensate for the bow and apparently compacted the wood near the anchor, so the truss was maxed out and went poof. A good luthier looked at it, and said it can be rebuilt, but to do it right would cost more than what I paid. A damn damn damn shame because this thing was so very clean and basically came with all the goodies (case, covers, tags, etc).

    I'm not sure what to do now. On one hand I can get a new blocked inlay '70s style neck (Pau Ferro) from Fender for $450, which seems like it will work with the 3-bolt neck pocket. On the other hand, I could part out the neck hardware and sell the loaded body, case, covers, etc. - not sure if I would recoup my investment though.
     
  9. Bruce Johnson

    Bruce Johnson Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 4, 2011
    Fillmore, CA
    Professional Luthier
    Sadly, this is a common problem with Fender basses. The neck gets a forward bow and/or a "ski jump". Both fixable problems. But someone grabs the big wrench and cranks on the truss rod, and damages the neck beyond its value.
     
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  10. If the truss rod is truly broken, it must be replaced by drilling out the anchor and the rod where it attaches. I believe Dan Erlewine has a video of him doing this on a Fender bullet rod like yours. See the StewMac site.

    The other issue is the bad design of the Jazz Bass inlays and this type of truss rod. The first fret inlay removes lots of wood from just above the bullet adjuster and you can see the crack that lots of them get on the first fret.
    If the rod is replaced or fixed that area of the fingerboard has to be reinforced for this neck to be viable.
     
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  11. cornfarmer

    cornfarmer jam econo

    May 14, 2002
    ^ thanks for this....I found that video and it gave me some hope, but I think it's time to quit bitchin' and either get a new neck or sell it off.....
     
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