I like to record live gigs - mostly for my own enjoyment - and sometimes I find it is difficult to get a good recording of the bass without having it 'close-miced'. I just tried recording my bass running the Ischell Mic direct to my Zoom recorder. It lacks some 'air' perhaps, but other than that I have to say it is a good representation of the sound of my bass. Two things worth noting: you can hear my voice quietly - even though it is a contact mic it will have a small amount of bleed-thru. Also, the top two strings are Zyez Medium and the bottom two are Spirocore Mittels. You'll hear that the Zyex are more smooth sounding and the Spiros are 'scratchier' and harder to start. I think I will try some Spiro Weichs on the bottom 2. Also, since the XJack has BOTH XLR and 1/4 inch outputs I can run the XLR as a direct out and still use the 1/4 inch to feed my amp. To my ear, it has a nice 'woody' sound and good attack-decay which makes it sound very natural. I think blending this with my stereo 'air mic' on the recorder will make for a nice clear recording. I'm looking forward to trying it on a gig. It's also worth noting that as this is direct from the mic to the recorder there is no EQ taking place. What you're hearing is straight mic, which I think is impressive with how natural it sounds. If the attached file won't play for you here it is on Soundcloud:
Thanks! That sounds really nice. I've been messing with my X-Jack and having a hard time getting the sound I want out of it. I'm using the 1/4" output and not sure I have the impedance set correctly for it. But I'll use your sound clip as my tuning metric - see how close I can get! (It looks like the mp3 clip isn't working for iphone/ipad but I was able to listen on my laptop. the soundcloud clip works fine on all)
Hi Maple, Do you mean the impedence or do you mean the low-end rolloff which is controled by the switch in the XLR jack? Also, what position do you have it in? I found with my 7/8 bass that it seemed to sound best below the E side bridge foot - over the bass bar. This clip was of my 3/4 carved bass (Eastman 305) and there I have it in 'position 1' just below and touching the G side bridge foot. Let me know what you are not getting out of your sound, maybe I'll have a suggestion.
Thanks Rick! I have the built in hpf roll off in its default position and it’s running into a Felix with the Z switches in the middle setting. I have had it mostly in #1 position but put it in #2 the other day. Haven’t tried #3 yet. The sound is “bassey” with muffled or distant sounding mids and highs yet with a bit of high end noise. It also has a big resonance at around 117Hz that I’m not hearing with my bridge piezo pickup. I have a full day of work so I won’t be able to dig in for a while. I suspect I should move the pickup before spending too much time on settings.
I think you're right about first moving the mic around and trying different positions. Get back to me after you've had time to mess around with it and let's see if we can help you find the sweet spot. PS I believe the 'default' position is the most rolloff, it that is the case you shouldn't be sounding too 'bassey', but again, start with locations.
Maple, the pic in Ischell Contact Microphone shows my take on position 2. The 'E'-most edge of the black mic is probably just touching on the inner edge of the bass bar. Moving G-wards gives more 'thwack' and gets a bit dyn-B ish by the time I reach the midline. Actually on the bass bar gets a bit bottom-heavy for my liking. (On my Gliga 7/8... ) I would definitely experiment with geographic position (variations on position 1,2,3) and with how close the mic is seated down into the putty so the air gap is less or more. Good luck! ps default dip switch setting... never felt the need to change it
There we go, I can see the file on my iMac. Sounds lovely. Sometimes I think it's just easier to amplify a smaller bass, provided it produces the right sound. Besides my little tiny hands aren't suited to a 7/8ths thats for real men.