So, we have 2 guys who play the guitar pretty well, a singer who sings very well, and a drummer who knows what hes doing. Meanwhile, I'm over here on bass being the musician. One of the guitar players was in marching band and was writing the drill for his high school, so I know he is just playing dumb. Anyways. It call came to me last night... How truely stupid they really are. We were working on a new tune. Starts out with a little guitar run for 4 counts, bass and drums come in on 1, then little 2 bar diddly rock thingy, and then into a reggae section. Anyways. It is 4 counts from the rock section to the reggae section. Easy, right? Well, my singer, to put bluntly, is a loud mouthed bitch who can't shut up. Her and the electric guitarist (who are dating, by the way ) keep telling the drummer "After that rock section, you do the GACK GACK GACK and then into the reggae section." So, they keep explaining it to the drummer like that, and he is just doing the GACK thing randomly.... but always at somepoint within the 4. I stop everyone, explain the 4-count after the rock section, then into the reggae section.... I don't bother explaining the GACK thing (he has rythm, but doesnt "know" it per se, so im not going to explode his head with the technicalities of those quarter note triplets.) So, we try it, we nail it... And then my next problem. Half of this song is based on the 3-1-5-2 progression. The last song we wrote (Apathy) is all 3-1-5-2.... A song we wrote last year is 3-1-5-2.... So, in this song, that change is mostly a punk-section anyways. so I am just chugging the roots. Singer: "Mike, you already do that in apathy." Me: "Sorry, I'm out of basslines that that progression for this month." Singer: "Well, I don't like what your doing." Guitarist: "Ya Mikie, come up with something... Mr. Endorsement." (I get a lot of crap over the whole avatar thing.) Me: "Well, learn how to play those 4 chords in a different order." I don't even have the benefit of switching majors/minors All 3 songs are in majors. But anyways... It pisses me of because the guitar player has to worry about playing on 2 and 4 just doing chucks.... And then I'm expected to have killer lines for the same progression for the 3rd time. Naturally, I came up with one. Just took a few ideas from flea in "Soul To Squeeze" Anyone else spend a lot of time with people who claim to be "musicians" but cant even count to 4?