Alright guys, I know we've been through this before, but I've noticed a huge surge of people parading around TalkBass with such proclamations as "my guitarist said my playing was too busy, so I quit the jerks," "I can do crazy improv stuff that'll make your jaw drop," (not NTB this time -- HE was fun) and the ever so classic, "it's an electric bass, not a bass guitar" followed, I'm sure, by a wankful slap riff. More than ever, I'm seeing a lot of general bass snobbery and people slapping themselves on the back for playing the bass -- that we're always clearly misunderstood and that if only the shackles of doing classic rock covers were removed, we could start doing crazy solos, or that if a guitarist or singer tells us to turn down/play simpler/not wank all over the song, they don't know what they're talking about, because they're just a singer and don't understand the intricate nuances of our instrument or the advances Jaco/Wooten/Clarke/Flea/etc. have made for it. You know, I'm going to take a really wild shot in the dark and say that maybe -- just maybe -- your guitarist MIGHT have a point. Maybe playing syncopated 16ths isn't the right thing for a ballad, or maybe your arpeggiated tritone substitutions don't really fit into "Shook Me All Night Long." I'm not saying we need to play simple, pump out 8th note roots, or that chopsy bass playing has no place. Believe me, I indulge quite frequently in chopsy playing with my electrics (don't have the chops on DB...yet ) and quite actively dream of creating solo bass works that would make the most gratuitous wanker blush -- and quite often do my best to do just that. I'm just saying...you know what? It IS a bass guitar. Don't get so bloody offended when people refer to it as such, because that's what it is. Furthermore, if your guitarist says "Dude, quit wanking all over our song," don't just blow it off -- think about what he's saying. He might actually have a great point. And maybe -- just maybe -- your amp really is too loud.