maybe it's just me, but they keep surprising me. Don't get me wrong.. I LOVE my hi end Nordstrand , F Bass and Zon. But for the money, the Fenders work for me.. just picked up an American Deluxe Jazz 5 and i love it. for well under a grand. It has the J sound, the Marcus slap sound, HUGE lo end , 34 in scale that plays great. And i can check it at the airport without fearing losing a fortune! for the smooth Jazz gigs i have been playing (most sound like that Marcus tone ) it is perfect, and oudoors in 115 Vegas degrees, i can give the boutique guys a break... yep, flame away, but i LIKE these Fenders!!!