I've heard of walking bass, but this is ridiculous!

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by theydolph, Jul 17, 2003.

  1. theydolph

    theydolph Guest

    Oct 26, 2002
    I haven't seen any threads here about the forgotten bassists; the lower half of organ players. Specificaly I was thinking of Jimmy Smith who I got a chance to see a while back (80 something and still kickin' it). He plays a mean walking bass, literally. For anyone who doesn't know the Hammond organ (and others) have foot pedals so the player can "walk" the bass while he plays. Any thoughts about our forgotten brethren?
  2. Jimmy Smith = awesome. Don't forget Jimmy McGriff (we are rehearsing one of his tunes - "All About My Girl") and my all-time favourite CT - Chester Thompson. CT was awesome in the early Tower of Power days, trading off parts with Rocco sometimes.

    Our KB player has a great Kurtzweil instrument that even has 8 of the stop sliders when it emulates a Hammond B3, but no pedals of course. So I get to be the foot pedals!!
  3. bentem


    Oct 18, 2002
    Rockville, MD
    The guy from the Doors had that little one-octave keyboard above his regular organ that he played the bass parts on. I forgot his name, but he was amazing, also on his regular organ.
  4. theydolph

    theydolph Guest

    Oct 26, 2002
    I remember reading that when Jimmy Smith first started palying someone told him that it would take him at least a year just to learn the pedals, so Jimmy rented a space at an old warehouse and practiced everyday like he was going to work. He made a chart of the pedals and put it on top of the organ so he didn't have to look down at his feet every five seconds. He was gigging in a couple of months.
  5. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!
    Those cats are the greatest, I've looked for a P-Bass that has the tone of the pedals for a long time....

    Ever heard Dr. Lonnie Smith (The Turbanator)? I was listening to this album I picked up, "Drives" (GET IT!!!) and one of the tunes on it is his version of the cover "Spinning Wheel"... Oh my gosh, the funkiest non-bassist organ jams... EVER!

    Oh yeah Larry Goldins and Neal Evans (Soulive) ain't too shabby either....he he he:D
  6. Andrew Jones

    Andrew Jones Banned

    Feb 28, 2001
    Northampton Mass
    I saw the Horny Horns(maceo,fred,peewee) play in 92 at a little place in boston called Johny D's. So I get in there and I'm lookin at the stage set up and there's no bass rig and Im all upset. Well the band came out and jump into Got to Getcha and Il tell you there was BASS! Big round Just a hint of chrunch on the front B3 BASS.

    Larry Golding's Lows where so nasty that night,it made me big fan of the tone of the hammond! If they ever come up with a pedal/ midi sampler thing that could make my bass sould like that Id buy it in a heartbeat!

  7. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!
    Yo AJ,

    That tones that Larry gets... is what I want from a P-Bass for my funk, Nawlins and even blues gigs... Hard to replicate.

    BTW Johnny D's is in Somerville, MA (Davis Sq. 'the Paris of the '90's).... I've gigged at JD's when I was living up in them northern parts....
  8. Andrew Jones

    Andrew Jones Banned

    Feb 28, 2001
    Northampton Mass
    j-raj what up

    Yah I nkow I was givving the user friendly version of the location. I love Johny D's Ive played there many time and they have allways treated me well.

    I was looking at you site( I Have to build one of those) You went to Zoomass Huh? Did you study bass there (double bass?) every time I resieve a bill from Berklee I think about going there. When did you go there mabye we know some of the same people.

    That Tone would be it! I think its going to come from some sampler midi thing someday once someone get hip to the task

  9. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!

    Before we hijack this thread (cause you know... I'm a talker)... I'll PM you...

    back to the killer tone discussion

    yeah man, If they could bottle that tone, sh!t! I'd buy it!!... Spray all it over the place, like techno- loving BU student on 'lansdowne st.'(you have to know what I mean).....

    on a serious note

    I actually might know someone that could help in that dept, if we could get it sampled at a high bit-rate... there are some fierce B3 players here in ATL (Kevin Thomas, Ike Stubblefield, Rich Ianucci, Kofi Burbridge, Dan Seifert...tons!!)... I could rent their time and record/sample them... plug it in to a V-bass... what do you think? Would it work?

    Get Line 6 interested.

  10. Jimmy Smith is fantastic. is he really still alive?
  11. theydolph

    theydolph Guest

    Oct 26, 2002
    I saw him a couple of years ago and he could still play like a Mutha' although he did have to take a break after everysong.
  12. beermonkey


    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    The Ultimate Ninja(tm) at playing bass lines with his feet while going absolutely bat**** on the keys is Chester Thompson of Tower of Power fame. Check out "Squib Cakes" or his solo on the Live & In Living Color version of "Knock Yourself Out". Uh... wow. Of course, Lenny Pickett's solo on that version of Knock Yourself Out is a veritable textbook on how to play tenor sax. Simply amazing.
  13. Woodchuck


    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Dave Finnegan did some pretty cool stuff as well. He plays "bass" on Jimi's "Crosstown Traffic".
  14. j-raj

    j-raj Bassist: Educator/Soloist/Performer Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 14, 2003
    Atlanta, GA!
    Squib Cakes is a funky tune, CT keeps it driving with the bass pedals in that tune...

    I'm not sure about 'textbook' on Lenny Picket's solo...

    I really would mind to have his gig with SNL now...
  15. Benjamin Strange

    Benjamin Strange Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Owner / Tech: Strange Guitarworks
    My favorite non-bass bassist - Stevie Wonder. Not walking on pedals, mind you, buy damn! He's so funky you got to spell it with an 'O'! Fonky!!