Jamerson Signature P Bass

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Mark Jacobs, Jun 24, 2003.

  1. Mark Jacobs

    Mark Jacobs

    Dec 16, 2000
    I was reading the Carol Kaye thread and someone happened to mention that Fender once offered a JJ signature P. Anyone have details on it? Unique features? Price? Dates that it was offered?

  2. BoiNtC


    Nov 25, 2002
    NYC, USA
    it was a limited time thing I believe, saw one on ebay a while back.
  3. geezer316


    Jan 26, 2003
    i maneged to hear something to that affect as well,and also a "DUCK DUNN" model was around for a couple of short years.i never seen either of the 2 anywhere,and i check E-BAY every 4 hours when i am home so i would of seen them had they been avalible.if anyone knows of a "D.D" model thats for sale,please let me know.i returned to work this week,and will be in the running for a new Fender,if i cant fid either of these models,i will go w/ the 51 re-issue.:D
  4. Woodchuck


    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    They were only marketed in Europe.
  5. DaveB


    Mar 29, 2000
    Toronto Ontario
    I guess if you buy a Fender '62 RI Precision, put on a Labella Flat Jamerson set, raise the action about six inches off the fretboard you'll have a Jamerson signature P. Oh yeah: leave the pickup and bridge covers on and stuff some foam under the strings at the bridge.Then practice for about a hundred years.
  6. moley


    Sep 5, 2002
    Hampshire, UK
    Did JJ do that?!?
  7. No! He didn't have to. Fender had foam strips glued inside the bridge covers in those days on the P-Bass. That's the way they were made.
  8. moley


    Sep 5, 2002
    Hampshire, UK
    Ahh! I didn't realise that.

    I guess that does explain the kind of "muted" sound that I associate with Jamerson.
  9. NV43345


    Apr 1, 2003
    I had the pure luck to play both of the "original"
    RE-Issue basses back in october 1991 when I was in LA doing some work on a freinds Album, They were being sold at the LA Bass Centre in Studio City, Chris Maury was the owner back then, It is gone now. Anyway there were only 100 made of each
    The Jamerson and The Jaco, they came with with all kinds of certificates from Jaco's and James family and Fender. I think They were a bargain
    around a $1000 each, I will have to go into my
    archives and find the bass Centre catalog that featured them. They were so sweet sounding, I did
    get to play each one that was in the store, but they were already sold. I remember the Jaco came with Rotsound RS66 strings and had a sealed fretboard,I wish I had a scanner then I could scan in the pages of the catalog with all the details. Dont quote me on the price, I will post
    them thursday or friday after I have a chance to check it out. :)
  10. DaveBeny


    Mar 22, 2000
    London, UK
    The Jamerson Precision (MIA)was a very limited edition some years ago. It was based on the '62 reissue model.

    The Bass Gallery in London had number 001(!) in stock for a long time. Price? £3500!:eek:

    They also had another low number model for approx £1800. That's a lot of money for a bass that, as i've said, was virtually identical to the '62 reissue. They probably make good investments though.
  11. NV43345


    Apr 1, 2003
    Quote from me: Dont quote me on the price, I will post
    them thursday or friday after I have a chance to check it out.

    I went into my archives last night and the list price on the Jamerson was $1575.00 and the "Jaco"
    was $1995.00.:)
  12. The Jamerson was a 62 P bass reissue w/ flatwounds. It wasn't a "signatue" model.
    I hear that his signature is impossible to get anymore...

    Lakland offers a genuine Duck Dunn Signature model bass. I worked, with another band, on a show with Duck a few months ago and he was playing it.. a really sweet sounding bass.
  13. Mark Jacobs

    Mark Jacobs

    Dec 16, 2000
    Funny that someone should mention the Duck Dunn signature P in this thread 'cause I have one of the numbered, limited edition Fender Ps that were mad in the mid-late 90s. Here's where you can read about it:

  14. nixdad

    nixdad Supporting Member

    Aug 15, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sorry I'm 6 years late on this reply. I may be a little fuzzy on some of the dates, so bear with me...

    The James Jamerson Tribute Bass and Jaco Pastorius Signature Bass were commissioned exclusively by The Bass Centre in Los Angeles (Studio City) and built by the Fender Custom Shop. John Page was manager of the Fender Custom Shop at the time, and the master builder in charge of the project was J. Black.

    We started this project in 1990, and I believe the basses were produced in 1991. We worked with James Jamerson, Jr. on the Jamerson bass, and (after gaining permission from the Attorney's of Jaco's Estate) with Kevin Kaufman (who maintained, repaired, and eventually re-built the "Bass of Doom.") I had also spoken with Jim Roberts (Bass Player Magazine) and John Goodwin about some details early on as well. I think it was John who put me in touch with Kevin.

    The original idea was to commission the FCS to do the Jamerson bass, and then we came up with the idea to do the Jaco bass immediately thereafter. The intent was to have the FCS reproduce a limited run of basses that was modeled after both the "Funk Machine" and the "Bass of Doom." This was years before the FCS began building "relic'd" instruments (which would have been SWEET!) Each bass was to be limited to 100 pieces, and include an accurate vintage-type case as well as a signed certificate of authenticity. The Jamerson Family and the Pastorius Estate were both paid a royalty whenever a bass was sold.

    All told, I believe no more than 50 of each instrument was actually produced, and the quantity may be closer to 35. I left The Bass Centre in July of 1993 (I went to work for Kaman Music as the western U.S. product specialist for Trace Elliot amplification & Hamer Guitars shortly thereafter,) and the store closed in January 1996. When I left, I believe we had already sold about 20 JJ bases, and had about 15 left in stock. I don't remember the quantity on the Jaco basses. Alan Morgan (the owner of the Bass Centre in LA) was not convinced that we would sell 100 of each, so we only committed to a quantity (at the time) of 50. He was right.

    Details on the Jamerson Bass:
    1962 Precision Bass, sunburst. Per JJ, Jr, the Funk Machine had a very wide, flat neck. I don't recall the correct Fender size (A, B or C) but it was also referred to as the "blade" neck. This was different from the neck shape that was used on the standard 1962 re-issue, which was a bit more chunky. This had a rosewood, slab fingerboard with clay dots. We also contacted La Bella and ordered the 1954 flatwound strings to be installed on each bass. Each neck plate said James Jamerson Tribute Bass and was individually numbered. The case for ordered for the JJ bass was the black 1962 type case with the orange interior. This was a bit of a disappointment, as the cases actually came with a red interior, as the orange material apparently could not be sourced at the time. The numbered certificate of authenticity was signed by James Jamerson, Jr., and by yours truly.

    Details on the Jaco Bass:
    1962 Jazz Bass, sunburst. The biggest detail on this bass was the lined, fretless neck covered with epoxy. It was decided to use a cream-colored plastic to fill in the fret lines (rather than putty as Jaco originally used,) as the plastic would not shrink & crack over time. A clear epoxy was used to cover the fingerboard, and then the bass was strung with Rotosounds. P-bass knobs were installed to be accurate, and the case was to be the brown vintage case with the correct interior. We were fortunate to receive several copies of Jaco's signature from His estate, so Jaco's signature (John Francis Pastorius - maybe John F Pastorius) was engraved on the neck plate along with the serial number. Again, the correct interior color was not available, so a yellow-gold interior was used for the brown case. The numbered certificate of authenticity for the Jaco Bass was signed by Kevin Kaufman and by me.

    Kevin Kaufman was very instrumental in creating the Bass of Doom. Kevin was fantastic, and we spent a lot of time on the phone nailing down the details. When the prototype was ready, we flew Kevin from Florida to California to review the finished product, and to meet John Page and J. Black at the FCS. Here is a link from Kevin's website that featured an article about both basses that was done by the industry magazine Music and Sound Retailer: http://www.kdiproductions.com/jaco_article.htm
    The article is dated 1999, but this was actually done originally in 1991 or early 1992.

    Chris Maury
  15. Caca de Kick

    Caca de Kick Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    They were sold through the Bass Centre in Los Angeles. They were a limited run back from 1991-ish. I used to check them out when I would go to LA back then.

    Wow Chris, zombie thread indeed. I was fresh out of high school in 91, but I used to drive down and visit you guys at the Bass Centre all the time.

  16. steveinohio


    May 27, 2007
    I really wish Fender would do another Jamerson model. I would buy it in a heartbeat.
  17. nixdad

    nixdad Supporting Member

    Aug 15, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    It's very possible that some were either sent years ago to Barry Moorhouse (who owns The Bass Centre in London) to be sold, or that some were taken back to England by Alan Morgan when he closed the Bass Centre in LA in 1996. Either of those 2 scenarios are the likely reason for some of these basses to have appeared in England.

    Mike -
    Thanks for coming down to check us out back in '91 & beyond! I loved the fact that people like you came from all over the world to check out our store. That's one of the things that made that era very special.
    Keep playin' them low notes and carrying the torch.
  18. Martin Peterson, the owner of the Bass Gallery in Camden, London had the serial number 0001 Jamerson Tribute bass for a few years. He actually had it in his home for a couple of years - it was set up in the office area of his house with an Ampeg B-15. That was one of the reasons it was so much fun to stay at his house whenever I visited London! (that and the pinball machine set up in the spare bedroom!).

    The Jamerson bass had a certificate of authenticity from the Custom Shop in the case, and had the special engraved neckplate as well.

    Jack Bruce thought about buying it at one point, but declined, It eventually sold about 4 years or so ago.

    It was a nice bass - very wide neck at the headstock - but nothing wonderful in my opinion.
  19. Jim C

    Jim C Spector#496:More curves than Sophia + better sound Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Thanks for the history lesson.
    Very cool story.