Jazz Bass pickup with plenty of rich, clear, deep bottom end.

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by madjazzbass, Jun 9, 2020.

  1. madjazzbass

    madjazzbass Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    Earth
    I have a (Warmoth) Jazz build that I believe calls for pickups that can deliver Very clear, rich, and tight bottom end and VERY Crisp highs; I've been through numerous sets of strings and quite a few sets of pickups as well and all types of combinations of the two. The Bass is an Ash body w/ a Maple neck/fretboard and it just lacks that really rich, tight, deep and warm bottom end that I hear in some of my other Basses as well as in other Basses as well; I just can't seem to find the right combination of pickups and strings that work really well together. Right now I have and old set of Fender Super 55's in, before that I had Custom Shop 60's and before that the EMG JVX set. I'm THINKING maybe a set of Bartolini's may do it OR maybe it's the preamp, I don't know. It also has an Audere JZ3 preamp in it, it's really frustrating; I think "some" of you have been here and know what I mean :laugh: Thanks.
     

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  2. micguy

    micguy

    May 17, 2011
    The Physics of how magnetic pickups work is interesting - they all have good, uncolored bass (and low mid) response. The differences occur in the high mids and above. The impression of more or less bass is a relative thing - if a pickup has a lot of treble content, that grabs your attention, and you perceive less lows. In reality, the lows are always there in conventional magnetic pickups.
     
  3. Snaxster

    Snaxster

    Nov 29, 2008
    Maybe it's this bass's body, neck and fretboard, not its strings and/or electronics.

    You cite "some of" you other basses. What physical makeup do those have in common that the other of your bass do not? Now, which is the phyiscal makeup of this bass more like: those of your other basses that have the sound you want, or those that don't?

    Did you try swapping the very pickups and strings from one of your basses whose sound you like onto this bass? If you try that and the desireable sound transfers to this bass, then you know it's the strings and/or pickups; but if it does not, then it's this bass's body, neck and fretboard.
     
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  4. PawleeP

    PawleeP

    Oct 8, 2012
    East Coast
    Is the JZ3 a a 3 band with balance or two volumes?
     
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  5. madjazzbass

    madjazzbass Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    Earth
     
  6. madjazzbass

    madjazzbass Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    Earth
    I have a 2015 Fender American Deluxe 4 string also Ash/Maple (stock). The Bass in question has a Precision Bass neck, it's of course a wider neck. Right now these are the only 2 Jazz Basses that I play ... or care about, the others I sold off for various reasons.
     
  7. madjazzbass

    madjazzbass Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    Earth
    It's got Bass, treble (stacked) mids and bridge pup stacked and the neck volume alone.
     
  8. madjazzbass

    madjazzbass Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    Earth
    I really am leaning towards it being the neck and/or body; I really DON'T wanna believe that because I really do love Warmoth products and I've never had an issue in the past with anything I've gotten from them; but it's a good possibility that the neck and body just aren't a good match.
     
  9. madjazzbass

    madjazzbass Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    Earth
    With everything I've put into this Bass, I could've just gotten a Sadowsky and called it a day; Yet I continue to keep pushing forward :banghead: :laugh:
     
  10. Low Down Brown

    Low Down Brown Supporting Member

    Jan 8, 2018
    Erf
    I love the Bart B-Axis Jazz p/u. That's what I have in my mod MIM Jazz along with an Audere 4-band pre. The combo is full, rich, and very articulate.

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  11. Killing Floor

    Killing Floor Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2020
    Austin, TX
    You should cycle through every variation of Barts and Duncans and even some vintage stock Fenders. Then when you're really ready to answer your own question you have 2 choices that will kick your bass in the jewels.
    Jason Lollar, Lindy Fralin.

    Or go ahead and mess around. Time is money. You can do Lindys or Lollars now or pee away your time and money on whatever. That preamp of yours will marry very well with either.
     
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  12. Grapevine921

    Grapevine921 Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Lafayette, Indiana
    Have you experimented with different string types?
     
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  13. +1 for Lindys
    Also take a look into your capacitor. Changing the value on that can do wonderful things.

     
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  14. 707GK

    707GK

    Jun 13, 2013
    California
    The V-Mod pickups that I replaced with CS60’s have the crisp high end and tight, deep low end that you want. The higher end was TOO crisp for me, which is why I swapped the pickups. But it sounds like it may be what you’re after.

    My experience using them was also on an Ash body, maple neck/board. I gigged the V-Mods for a year before swapping them. They are nice pickups, just not what I am after, tonally.
     
  15. LoTone

    LoTone Clean as an Entwistle... Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2010
    Quebec, Canada
  16. sonojono

    sonojono Supporting Member

    Feb 13, 2013
    California
    I have the same bass material as yours (it’s a Squier) and I get the tone you’re looking for on my bass with DR Lo-Riders Stainless Steel strings.
     
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  17. micguy

    micguy

    May 17, 2011
    He wants more low end and high end - I assume he's playing with the tone turned all the way up. If that assumption is right (I admit there is an if there), the value of tone capacitor at that setting is meaningless.
     
  18. Nedmundo

    Nedmundo Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2005
    Philadelphia
    Based on the description, you might like DiMarzio's Ultra Jazz. I've never tried them, but they're known for deep, clear lows, scooped mids, and clear highs. Not too expensive, and noiseless too:

    Ultra Jazz™ Pair | DiMarzio
     
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  20. Corevalay

    Corevalay Supporting Member

    Sep 10, 2009
    New Jersey
    If you aren't getting that with those pickups you used, I'm not sure there's anything that's really going to get it for you. A pickup surely makes a difference, but I can't imagine something that'll make a drastic difference compared to what you've already tried. I've had really great experiences with the Custom Shop 60s and JVX. MAYBE overwound pickups from Fralin?
     
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