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Jazz bass replicas?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Oysterman, Nov 4, 2001.


  1. Oysterman

    Oysterman

    Mar 30, 2000
    Sweden
    Hey, JT, here's another "what bass should I get" thread for you! ;)

    When, I do not say IF but I do say WHEN, I get money for a new bass I WILL buy one. As I'm feeling now, a Jazz bass or JB-clone would suit me quite alright, since I've been a very happy camper with my MIM Jazz lately, at least soundwise. What my MIM doesn't have is:

    1) Looks (Boring black lacquer and white plastic. No, no metal control plate, it's all plastic I tell ya.)
    2) Playability (Neck is too fat. No, it's not a Jazz neck! More like a P.)
    3) Construction quality (Poor grounding, no shielding, uneven frets, sub-par bridge and tuners, same polarity on both pups...)

    So, I've decided to some day spend in the vicinity of US $1500 (possibly a bit more if turns out to ne THE bass) for a BETTER Jazz bass. Buying a MIA Fender is pretty much out of the question, they cost far too much around here and I don't trust their quality control - I don't feel like I'll get value for my money. I guess I want to be a little bit "different" too. ;) Also, I'd like to buy a NEW instrument, I know I can make steals on used gear but I want a NEW, FRESH instrument.

    So I wonder, what options do I have? What manufacturers make great J-bass replicas? I have pondered the thought of assembling a Warmoth bass, but I'm a bit weary over this as I won't be able to try it out before I buy it.
    What other brands are there besides Warmoth and Fender? From the top of my head, I know of:

    * Mike Lull (too expensive)
    * Sadowsky (ditto)
    * Modulus Vintage J (yep)
    * Celinder (I fear they fall into this category as well)
    * Frudua (no "vintage-vibe" but looks very promising!)
    * Phantom Jazzica ($$$ = ?)
    * Marleaux JB
    * (please add to the list if you have more!)

    Others I could look into?

    TIA
     
  2. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    Sei
    Moon
    Atilier
    Pensa
    None of these are cheap, but they're great basses.
     
  3. hujo

    hujo

    Apr 18, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    I'd recommend a used Elrick. I hear they're great basses, and their in your pricerange, if used. How do you plan on buying? Ordering from the states or the continent? I'd be deadly scared of the shipping costs... Do they stock those brands you mentioned in your post in stores in Gothenburg? I've been looking for a good bass for ages now, but they're all so expensive here.

    BTW, something that might be more available, are Neusers... If you're not familiar, it's a finnish brand. I tried a fiver the other week, had a J feel to it. Also in your price-range.
     
  4. hujo

    hujo

    Apr 18, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Oh, i just read that you didn't want used.... Well, suit yourself. ;)

    Status used to make a model with a wooden neck, I think it was called Energy, that had two J pups. There's one up here in Umeå, that plays just beautifully.
     
  5. pumo420

    pumo420

    Nov 2, 2001
    illinois
    hamer jazz bass
     
  6. Oysterman

    Oysterman

    Mar 30, 2000
    Sweden
    Yeah, that's sour. Shipping might be around $150-$200, but money isn't the biggest problem - I'm afraid that things might happen to the package on the way, since it's a long travel, and if I'm not happy I will have hell returning it.
    They don't stock anything here but Fenders, some Musicmen and Czech Spectors here (along with dozens of cheap basses), but if there is a distributor in my (our) country, any dealer should be able to bring you one without forcing you to buy it. Some of the brands do not have distributors in Sweden (Frudua for one), which complicates things a bit. If Chris Celinder makes a bass in my price range, I guess I could take a trip to Denmark and buying one from him in person.
    J feel, yeah, but J tone?
     
  7. Oysterman

    Oysterman

    Mar 30, 2000
    Sweden
    Thanks, but I'd rather keep my MIM in that case. ;)
    As much as I'd love to have one, they're around $2500 here. A bit too much for my wallet.
     
  8. early Status Energy basses did have 2 J p/ups, but the positioning and tone was different.
    however, they did make the Trace Elliot T Bass which was a Jazz bass copy, albeit with a strange folded over headstock design.
     
  9. hujo

    hujo

    Apr 18, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    I honestly don't remember, sorry.


    And about the Hamers, they're really not that bad, do some of the usual hardware upgrading, and you got a pretty sweet bass. Not boutique standard by any means, but it will rock a MIM, in my experience. I played one with a bridge with individual string saddles, it was owned by Lisa Miskovsky's bassist (my god, I hope he doesn't read this, we rehearse at the same place occasionally), and it was much better than any MIM i've ever played. Like i said, nothing fancy, but with a preamp...

    I just love the bass-situation here in sweden. All the middle-end stuff the american guys talk about cost twice as much here. I mean, a MTD kingston for 800$, or a Cirrus for 2900$? :(

    EDIT: Hey, could you imagine yourself playing a Marcus Miller signature? MIJ, but i hear it's good... Or a MTD beast, around SEK 10 000.
     
  10. My Elrick Jazz Bass, I love it, I play it until my left arm is numb, smoooth but I don't know where you can get one in Sweden.

    Another Luthier is Kinal, here is the link

    http://www.guitarboutique.com/bass30.html

    It got this wicked pre amp, and the bass is gorgeous. I'm sure the shop could ship it worldwide.
     
  11. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    Hmm..."A" J's are pretty nice. Built BY a player (Albey Balgochian).

    The Jade Standard lists for $1995 USD. That's a lined, fretless maple board :D.

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    The A basses site -- click
     
  12. Woodchuck

    Woodchuck

    Apr 21, 2000
    Atlanta / Macon (sigh)
    Gallien Krueger for the last 12 years!
    I like this one better.
     
  13. I recommend the Modulus Genesis VJ.
     
  14. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    I believe that DarkMazda had that one for a few days.
     
  15. Yep, he got rid of it because he hates EMGs and couldn't tune it down to low A very well:rolleyes:
     
  16. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    That looks like the Z from Bass Palace. If it is, a friend of mine owns it. Nice bass.
     
  17. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    i understand what you mean oysterman. europe is far away from usa speaking about prices. what i suggest you is to go to the used market. that's because you'll find great instruments at a lower price. you mentioned frudua. they make great instruments but they are quite pricey too. ask them but i think that under $1800 there will be nothing. if you want a jazz bass i suggest:
    used MIA jazz, try before you buy
    used G&L asat or l2000. not the jazz look buy a lot of tonal styles
    MIJ fender jazz, the best money/performance you can find out there.

    but if i really need a jazz i'd go with warmoth parts. you choose the best pickups together with good quality parts. this can't sound bad!