Jazz- where to start

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by FatCity, Jul 24, 2003.

  1. FatCity

    FatCity Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Beaufort, SC
    Endorsing Artist: Howard's Crispy Fried Chicken Skins
    This is probably a silly post, but here goes:

    I have never had any exposure to jazz and would like to change that, but don't know where to start. Miles Davis, Mingus...I know a few names but know nothing of their music. Where should a classic rock/country fan start?

    Thanks in advance,

    FC
     
  2. ConU

    ConU

    Mar 5, 2003
    La Belle Province
    Scott Joplin
    Jelly Roll Morton
    Bix Beiderbeck
    Duke Ellington
    Charles Parker.
    Stop there,let it sink for a while,then move on to Mingus and Miles...etc.:cool:
     
  3. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
    Check it out.
     
  4. Hey, FatCity, if you like Jazz on the mellowish/refined side, check out this site: http://www.higheroctave.com

    Click on Smooth Jazz, and then go to page 4.
    The second, third and fourth albums down (Higher Octave is...Smooth Grooves) will-blow-your-mind.

    I have all three, and they are TOO GOOD! :cool:

    A lot of the individual artists are excellent, such as Craig Chaquico (guitar - like Santana) and Bryan Savage. (sax) 3rd Force is good too.

    Check out the whole site. They have a lot of stuff, that many people don't know is out there.

    If you ever have trouble finding anyone's recordings, look here: http://www.jandr.com

    Welcome to the world of jazz. ;)

    Mike

    P.S. I'd never heard of a lot of the artists here, bought one of their CDs, and was pleasantly surprised.
     
  5. I just remembered: for anyone interested in Latin Jazz, check out this guy, he's fantastic: http://www.nestortorres.com

    Click on Discs, and then check out:

    Cafe Cubano and No Te Enamores on the This side of Paradise CD.

    and

    Musing and Luna Latina, on the Treasures of the heart CD.

    Mike
     
  6. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
     
  7. mans0n

    mans0n

    Jun 15, 2002
    another vote for Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

    really the first album id show anyone interested in jazz! great great great album, it hasnt sold more copies then any other jazz album for no reason
     
  8. LM Bass

    LM Bass

    Jul 19, 2002
    Vancouver, BC
    When I get asked about jazz listening, I always say "Listen widely, and trust your instincts. Don't be afraid to dislike something, and don't try to like something just because everyone says you should". Remember that your preferences will change. It is a wide enough field that you will certainly latch onto something you like if you listen enough.

    LM
     
  9. LM Bass

    LM Bass

    Jul 19, 2002
    Vancouver, BC
    If you come from a pop/rock background, check out some Pat Metheny, Yellowjackets, and the like. Then stretch your ears a bit, and get some early jazz as suggested above. Get some Bill Evans, Coltrane, and Sonny Rollins. Don't forget some Grant Green, Charlie Parker, Keith Jarrett trio, Jan Garbarek, Oscar Peterson, Teddy Wilson, Clifford Brown, Joe Lovano, Chucho Valdes, Sarah Vaughn, Johnny Hartmann, Dexter Gordon, John Scofield, Dave Holland. . .

    'Cause I said so, that's why!
    ;)

    LM
     
  10. FatCity

    FatCity Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Beaufort, SC
    Endorsing Artist: Howard's Crispy Fried Chicken Skins
    Thank you all for the suggestions, I appreciate it very much!

    FC
     
  11. Benjamin Strange

    Benjamin Strange Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Owner / Tech: Strange Guitarworks
    My fave to this day is Miles Davis "Sketches of Spain".

    I hear that there was some guy named Jaco something-or-other who used to play jazz too. You might want to try looking for some of his stuff.
     
  12. I've been diggin the bebop as of late. There's so much out there. I'd suggest hitting up the local thrift stores and flea markets if you have a record player. You never know what you'll find and LP's are rarely over $4 so it's not a big deal to take a chance on something.
     
  13. Another vote here for "Kind of Blue". This album is a "must" for jazz fans, and it is nice and accessible for newbies. Paul Chambers is superb with his bouncing feel.
     
  14. I have bought this last weekend... but still have some hard time digesting it... it does have such a long liner notes though, the new remastered version.

    I have to crank up the "loud" on my Car CD Player to hear what the bass was playing, but I guess I should pay more attention towards the melodies?

    Is this one of the "you have to try to play it, then you will understand why it is so great" album?
    :help:

    p/s: the drum parts are so boring! I dun think I will ever coax my drummer to playing any of the stuffs in there!
     
  15. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    You're listening to Kind od Blue on your car CD player!!?? :eek: :meh:


    No, no - you need a good Hi Fi, big speakers and absolute quiet - it is very subtle and "cool" - it is all about space - you can't listen to it in your car!!




    ;)
     
  16. While I'd second any Miles Davis recommendations - why not try someone new like this Swedish band <b>EST - The Esbjorn Svenssen Trio</b> - they make brilliant modern piano trio jazz with bass and drums but instead of getting all self-indulgent they actually write TUNES! Yes, their latest album 'Seven Days Of Falling' is packed with stunning melodies, that reference a wide range of styles like rock, broken beats and classic piano/classical melodies - all given a jazzy twist - plus their dsouble bass player Dan Bergland (sp) is utterly awesome - the guy makes incredible bas lines, amazing solos - sometime distorted and he is the pivotal figure in the band between the drums and the intricate piano.

    One other thing I would add about listening to 'jazz' is that there are many different styles of jazz - and I'm sure there's one that would get you hooked straight away - if you like country for example why not check out <b>Bill Frisell</b> who has made some beautiful Americana style albums recently - or another classic is the duo album between <b>Pat Metheny and Charlie Haden 'Beyond The Missouri Sky'</b> which is sooooooo gorgeous i can't tell you - if you need any recommendations please just ask cos I'm a frikkin jazz journalist!
     
  17. I think Dave Brubeck is a great place to start, simply because you will recognise so many of the songs (Pennies from Heaven, Take Five and Wonderful Copenagen) and also because Gene Wright was so amazing on Double Bass. Also, no one has mentioned Herbie Hancock and if you haven’t heard Chameleon or Watermelon Man you haven’t lived!
     
  18. WillPlay4Food

    WillPlay4Food Now With More Metal! Supporting Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Orbiting HQ
    Get Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um

    This album is most excellent and totally worth getting.
     
  19. If I was to put together a starter kit for jazz CD's, it would probably go like this:

    1. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
    2. Dave Brubeck - Time Out
    3. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
    4. Herbie Hancock - Headhunters
    5. Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um (sp?)

    Once there, I'd then go:

    1. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
    2. Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire
    3. Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus
    4. Thelonius Monk - any, really, but maybe Straight No Chaser
    5. John Coltrane - Giant Steps