BassyBill worked is butt off on that last thread. I tried to send ya a message Buddy, but I don't know enough about Talkbass to do that. So I'll just offer a thought or 10! Well Done Bassy Bill! You were corralling us like Gene Autry used to do. But here, I thought that if anyone wants to detour, to talk about music in any way that they want, it is OK with me! Hopefully it will be OK with the moderators because they don't like things to detour off of topic which is is why I titled this thread the way that I did. To make clear, I am for music, first and foremost! If others are like-minded people, then there are methods and systems that will give them what they want. These will be the things that I will press upon you. I know that some believe that they see things in different ways, and this is OK! Let's chat! I simply will always guide anybody who is interested in upgrading their playing and musical awareness to those things that will give them what they want. Music is not an easy road! But getting better at is isn't so hard to do either. Some will argue hard against doing those things that will get to to improve. They must have their reasons for doing so, so let's start here. Please tell us the methods that you feel will help you to improve in music! Thanks, and let the Games begin! P.S. Who's the moderator here? P.P.S. Bassy Bill. C'mon over!