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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Dr. Cheese, Dec 1, 2019.
This is kinda like "Ford vs. Ferrari"
Fodera... That said, I sure see more than their fair share listed on the classifieds... Something must be amiss. Maybe they're fine but not fine enough to warrant their price.
I don't have any idea which one's better, that's subjective. For myself, I'd go Warwick. But it doesn't really matter, because I don't have the money to buy either one.
right! They found out they couldn't play it any better than their 200.00 Squier. The glitter was gone.
Yep, I have. I try a few at NAMM each year, and I've played a few at bass get togethers in the past. Never liked any of em. Forgettable tone, floppy B strings, and uninspiring body shapes every time.
NAMM is about the worst place to try a bass, but as they say, "there's a butt for every seat." Can't say I've had a floppy B on any of my basses, the Monarch body shape is essentially a refined variation of the P shape (which works for me), and my YYD has crushed most every other bass that's come in the house wrt tone. But everyone has their own preferences...
Directly from Joe's mouth, he says the Warwick is indeed better for him.
One of the biggest things about it was that it was apparently 1/3 the weight of his Fodera. It's also got a punchier tone "out of the box."
At one point it seemed like a lot of "online" bass players that were teaching were getting endorsement deals from Warwick. There were no real "deals" to be had, but you got to join the "family"...
Anyway, I seem to recall Joe actually offering his custom bass for sale to the masses. It's now on their "Discontinued" list, but I believe it was being offered for $12k and you could choose to leave off the JHB logos at the time. I doubt he sold many. If you google around, you'll find a forum post he made explaining his switch to Warwick, and how happy he is with it.
Would this be known as the "Boner" Warwick? (As they named some 80s Fenders...)
Joking aside, being a Spector fan, I cannot in good conscience 'like' a Warwick...
Pretty sure a lot of those guys selling those basses are Manhattan bankers and lawyers. Fodera aren't all that particular about who they make a bass for. All you need to do is flash the cash and spec something they are willing to make and off they go. Not all of them are completely custom, either. Like Ken Smith, they had "runs" of specific basses that made it to retail in small amounts or were offered to people who just wanted "That one."
More than a few Foderas went on the used market after 9/11. That's a sad reality, but it was a reality.
That explains probably 50% of those for sale. Not being able to really afford it probably explains another 35% at least.
I've picked up some sweet cheap deals on 6-strings because the sellers had failed Dream Theater aspirations.
I am sure you did! I have bought enough new basses, once I get my Geddy, I am done with new basses.
Oh really? Do you have a crystal ball there sir?
I've been playing bass for many moons and have had a chance to test drive some pretty remarkable basses. That's why we're individuals with different tastes. I won't knock yours if you don't knock mine.
Why would Fodera be particular about to whom they sell a bass? The only qualification should be finances.
No particular reason... but you can't just walk into Yamaha's custom shop and ask them to make you a bass, no matter how much money you have on you.
Ok you got me... I bought my crystal ball from Amazon.
Making blanket statements about an a entire brand based off of 1,2,3 examples of a product does not reflect on the brand as a whole. Perhaps the basses you say you’ve tried were custom shop pieces that didn’t float your boat so to say. But that doesn’t mean an entry level boutique instrument is “overbuilt”.
Yamaha is a huge corporation making millions selling products for regular folks. I take it that the Yamaha Custom Shop is for endorsers like Billy Sheehan, John Patitucci, Nathan East, or Abraham Laboriel.
I don't think Yamaha is really set up to take orders for customs. Their luthiers on hand just do builds for endorsed artists as far as I'm aware.
Sort of. It’s a bit more complicated than that. Those guys aren’t the only ones getting custom shop work from Yamaha Hollywood. Tony Kanal and the guy from the Googoo Dolls got custom stuff, too. There are others...
But again, Fodera will pretty much try anything. They’ve made all sorts of stuff like headless basses, short scales, different ranges, different headstock designs.
So you get bankers and lawyers ponying up cash for them, with no intention of playing them. When they get bored of it they turn around and sell it. But they are too sheepish to go back through Fodera’s buyback/consignment service.
Musicians should be grateful for rich hobbyists because Fodera could not survive without them.