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John Entwistle: Isolated bass track to "Won't Get Fooled Again" (1971)

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by A.K., Feb 14, 2016.


  1. A.K.

    A.K.

    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    I don't know if this is the original track or an alternate take. A very cool and different bass line, with some interesting and kind of angular blues licks going on.

     
  2. fly agaric

    fly agaric

    Jan 18, 2016
    He's so good.

    Sounds so weird naked and alone outside of context.
     
  3. A.K.

    A.K.

    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    It does. I read somewhere that this was his first take upon being shown the song.
     
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  4. I could never wrap my head around what he was playing. I don't know if that says more about my shortcomings or his depth and vast vocabulary as a musician. Probably both. His technique never floored me but his note choice and the way he tied together changes is amazing.
     
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  5. A.K.

    A.K.

    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    I agree. He takes a simple chord progression and comes up with a very unique line for it. I was working on this line yesterday and the way he uses the blues scale is interesting and kind of off the wall (in a good way). You can see why he was Chris Squire's favorite bassist.
     
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  6. This is great, Thanks for posting!
    To me his style is based on his upbringing as a horn player, He adds punches in spots similar to a brass section.
    He had such a unique ear & chops, I've never bothered to try to dissect his lines, just enjoyed them!
     
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  7. Smoove-Groove

    Smoove-Groove We've got bush, We've got bush!

    Jun 18, 2013
    Ontario, Canada
    You can really hear him spanking the strings.
     
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  8. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Sounds like the original version.
     
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  9. A.K.

    A.K.

    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    Yeah, I think it is.
     
  10. A.K.

    A.K.

    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    Entwistle died in a Las Vegas hotel room after a massive coke and alcohol binge with a hooker. What a badass.
     
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  11. A.K.

    A.K.

    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    Here are Van Hagar performing this song at 5150 studios in 1993. Mikey has the little details of Entwistle's line down.

     
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  12. sonicnuance

    sonicnuance Commercial User

    Aug 30, 2003
    California, USA
    Engineer & Owner, Sonic Nuance Electronics
    I agree. Entwistle is my biggest influence but it has been with regards to phrasing and note choice rather than tone. I do like the tone on Who Are You though. He did so much for our instrument in terms of pushing the envelope. I appreciate the tone he is getting which was way ahead of his time. It is almost like he is playing slap bass but is probably using his "typewriter" technique.
     
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  13. Yeah, it's mostly the typewriter technique on round wound strings. I also here some pop's and chord like structures especially on accented notes.
    Steve Harris played like a typewriter also, but he used flats.
     
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  14. Skokiaan

    Skokiaan

    Jun 19, 2004
    New Jersey
    Based on available video (and a good but fading memory), Entwistle didn't really develop his typewriter technique until after the Who split up in 1982. I've never seen any clips of him playing that way with the Who until the 1990s. Plus, it was mainly a gimmick for solos. It's not very practical to play an entire song that way.

    Video of his playing the same song in 1978 shows no use of the typewriter technique.



    A hard right hand technique combined with roundwounds and a boost in treble will give you the very same tone.
     
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  15. Skokiaan

    Skokiaan

    Jun 19, 2004
    New Jersey
    Here's a clip from 1971. Yes, they are miming for TV, but still there is no hint of typewriter.



    (Keith is always fun to watch when he's miming. He gets extra silly).
     
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  16. Michedelic

    Michedelic MId-Century Modern

    A master class.
     
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  17. Yes, It is very sad that after all of his success he ended up spiritually bankrupt..
     
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  18. sevenyearsdown

    sevenyearsdown Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Sanborn, NY
    I could listen to Entwistle tracks all day. He's one of those rare rock musicians that just kept working and improving his skills his whole life. Never seemed to rest on any one trick or technique. Just fantastic stuff.

    What I hear is a guy playing music, not just playing bass if that makes sense.
     
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  19. Smoove-Groove

    Smoove-Groove We've got bush, We've got bush!

    Jun 18, 2013
    Ontario, Canada
    He actually played a similar technique. It wasn't the full blown typewriter technique but it was along the same lines. He would kind of "spank" or bounce his fingertips off the strings. This would give it that somewhat slappy sound. He was doing this in the early who days.
     
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  20. His "spirituality", or lack there of, shouldn't be questioned by anyone.
     
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