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John Myung's new bass (RBX6JM2) is out.

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by patrickj, May 8, 2004.

  1. And damn.. I think I've got my first real case of GAS.

    <img src="http://www.giles.com/yamaha1/pr/trade/NAMM/w04/pr/pac/guitar/images/hi/RBX-JM2.jpg" width=800>

    ok, that was a bit too big :)

    :help: :help: :help:
  2. i really wanna try one out. i love his old signature.
  3. SoComSurfing

    SoComSurfing Mercedes Benz Superdome. S 127. R 22. S 12-13.

    Feb 15, 2002
    Mobile, Al
    Interesting. Is that a stacked pot at the back? Stacked bass and treble, maybe? It needs a series/parallel switch, IMO, though. Still looks quite interesting. I'll ask about it at the local Yamaha dealer next week when I go to bug them about the TRB-6. :D
  4. VS


    Jun 6, 2002
    Mountain City, Tennessee
    Discounted Gear: Peavey
    Anyone ever see him play a Tung anymore? -Luke
  5. invisiman


    Feb 22, 2004
    Looks nice, but what's the price range for that thing?
  6. He doesnt play tung anymore AND I DONT KNOW WHY!!!! Tung basses ARE AMAZING!!! anyway the yamaha is ok I guess but very John myung though 1 MM Pickup. 3 way eq the staked pot is bass/treble and the other 2s are mids and volume no need for a blend knob since it only has 1 pickup.
    the price is gonna be around $800-950 and its made in korea
  7. Can't say I am a fan of the fret markers
  8. Benjamin Strange

    Benjamin Strange Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Owner / Tech: Strange Guitarworks
    One word dude: payola.
  9. VS


    Jun 6, 2002
    Mountain City, Tennessee
    Discounted Gear: Peavey
    Blah! Probably the same reason John Pertrucci play's Music Man's. -Luke
  10. Well actually JP's music man guitar is awesome!!! it has a piezo pickup and 2 customs!!! with very nice woods. the tone is very nice!
  11. VS


    Jun 6, 2002
    Mountain City, Tennessee
    Discounted Gear: Peavey
    Oh,they're excellent guitars,but I think he's being paid to play them. -Luke
  12. Yeah I know. but thats an excelent guitar....now the Yamaha bass is not a High end bass compared tu a tung. man I love Tung basses.
  13. sargebaker

    sargebaker Commercial User

    May 2, 2004
    Montreal QC CA
    owner/builder, ISLAND Instrument Mfg.
    He must be getting payed, I,ve never noticed anyone else playing a MusicMan guitar before, EVER. thats a pretty nice bass though, I Love John Myung, don't care much for the ying yangy inlays though but thats a pretty nice headstock. Oh does anyone have a link to any TUNG bass website that has pictures. I would like to see one.

    Oh and what does GAS actually stand for... he he :bag: *runs away* (me so noob) :ninja:
  14. Ian Perge

    Ian Perge Supporting Member

    May 11, 2001
    Evansville, Indiana
    The list is over $1600, so a street price of even your top of $950 seems to be a huge drop. I'd guesstimate closer to $111-1200, but I've written about this before. Feh.

    As opposed to when he played Ibanez's? He got no cash from that deal? ;)

    I can see the desire from both JP and JM's point-of-view's. They were both given the opportunity to create a signature instrument from well-respected company... and to make money off them as well. These guys aren't huge rock stars, and they've got mortgages to pay and kid's college funds to fill just like most people.

    I simply think JP's was a greater success in the marketplace (MusicMan's extremely high quality, more unique features, crafted in America, etc) than the Yamaha signature, and the fact tha Yamaha and Myung didn't learn from their mistakes the first time around with the introduction of the JM2 shows that they don't understand the marketplace.
  15. Ian Perge

    Ian Perge Supporting Member

    May 11, 2001
    Evansville, Indiana
    Play a high-end BB series (the Nathan East's are lovely) or the Patitucci signature and tell me that Yamaha cannot make a high-end bass. :rolleyes:

    Tung lovers (and believe me, I was/am one) seem to forget that they were less of a company and more of a "project". I've heard between 100 and 400 were made (of which JM had 3) and I'd lay my money on the smaller figure.

    JM stopped playing his Tung's in 1996, when they ceased production. That was 8 years ago, folks. There's such a thing as "living in the past".
  16. That's probably true.. but I think the sound/quality of the music comes more from the artist than the actual instrument. Granted, crappy tools can be a hinderence, but when you get to the level of JP or JM, a good guitar is just a good guitar - your gear isn't crucial to your ability.
  17. Ian Perge

    Ian Perge Supporting Member

    May 11, 2001
    Evansville, Indiana
    Eddie Van Valen for several years, Steve Morse, Albert Lee, Steve Lukather, Vinnie Moore among others.[/quote]

    No site, as they haven't been made for almost a decade now (I believe he does custom furniture and woodworking now) but here's a photo. It's not great, but I haven't a ton of time to search. If you ever see his instruction video there are some nice shots of all three of his, and they're beautiful.

    Gear Acquisition Syndrome. As someone who suffers from the real thing, this is preferrable. :D
  18. We arent talking about nathan east sig or Pattitucci's because those really are high end basses. we are talking a RBXJM2 and at some store in europe they sell at 883 euros so I dont think they are going to be that expensive. Also JP and JM are indeed very respected and proffecional musicians who get a lot of money!!!!. so I dont think they need to be payed to play a certain brand.

    BTW none of the Sig basses of JM have been like the one he plays he changed pickups on the old one and on this one he added another pickup as well as the preamp.
  19. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Supporting Member

    I tried it. I'm not very impressed.
    Too bad because really I expected a lot.

    String spacing is very tight but that's the way Myung likes it so who am I to complain ? It's great for fast fingerplaying though.
    It's a bit lighter than the previous model and B string is tighter, which is quite an improvement. Controls also are simple and efficient, what the JM1 missed.
    Tone is a bit clustered and shallow, like the bass can't breath. It lacks oomph. The neck is slower than I expected and fret work was bad on the one I tried.
  20. Ian Perge

    Ian Perge Supporting Member

    May 11, 2001
    Evansville, Indiana
    I misread - my apologies. After a good deal of "Yamaha makes motorcycles, they shouldn't make basses", you can get on the defensive pretty easily.

    What they're selling in the EU and what they'll sell for in the US are two different issues. I'm taking the MSRP and taking off 30%, which is a fairly average selling point. That comes out to just under $1100, which is about what the first JM model sold for. Either Yamaha is inflating the MSRP, or planning on "dumping" it on the market (which could very well be true, given that I've hear that they're already promoting the model as a "limited edition" one)

    Respected, talented, and proficiency have little to do with what a musician can make. ;) DT has averaged selling about 100,000 units per release in the US since "Scenes From A Memory", and that's not a large amount in the grand, record company scheme of things. They've stated that most of their money comes from touring and merchandise (which they combine into one pool and draw weekly salaries from - a genius idea that more professional bands should take up), and individually from endorsement deals. Portnoy has stated that the biggest check he ever received in the music business was from an endorsement deal - 30K. Consider that endorsement money doesn't come with the "strings attached" that record company money often does (advances, promotions, etc), and you can see why it's an important source of revenue.

    Do they "need" to be paid to play a certain brand? I have no idea as I don't have a access to their financial records (and am not a CPA anyway). But if they have the opportunity, honestly enjoy and support the brand, and and can get paid for it? Would you turn down money in that situation?

    Keep in mind that we're talking about JM "leaving" Tung, when the company was ceasing production anyhow. He's also stated that "There are not too many at this point" when asked about potential endorsement deals.

    I know that he had modded his red and green models, but I'm not sure about the new one - the specs have the Seymour Duncan Bassline pickup and electronics listed, and that's certainly an upgrade from the stock electronics of the first series. Can you find a link of source to this?

    Ultimately, I'm agreeing with you - Myung has sounded like crap for a long time, and he deserves better.