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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Dr. Cheese, Jan 5, 2018.
Those were great basses. I had a five with soap bars that I traded for a Steinberger like an idiot.
Here was mine. Gone, but not forgotten.
You're a brave man to admit that. That Persuader 5 you had looks smokin' hot. Can't imagine trading it for too many things. Definitely not a Steinberger.
I was young, had a new job, no family, and a credit card with a stupidly high limit. That is a recipe for bad decisions. In five years, I probably blew $15,000-$20,000 on gear that really did nothing for me. I would have 100% better off spending $1,500 on lessons.
That guys a hoot...thanks for sharing.
Sounds Like a lesson for others here as well.
Please learn from my example! I don’t wish such a waste of time and finances on anyone!
Johnny does an even better demo on this new video. That single parametric tone knob is so simple to use and versatile, I really think more bass builders should use it.
That’s a nice looking bass, but I don’t hear anything special!
I like the demo of the Ken Smith much better!
Anyway, cool new a Avatar Dr. Cheese.
Hey, at least you had a job and no family. Some of us made similar questionable choices when we had a family and no job.
I'm sure we've all traded off gear on dodgy deals that we shouldn't have made. Our lives go on, thankfully. I once traded a handmade ACG for a Fender Jaco fretless jazz bass - the fool I am!
Just a few clarifications (my five-string Elan had similar electronics):
It's not a parametric tone control. It's actually a lo-pass filter, which travels from 350-6k hz. Closed completely, it's a very muffled, organ pedal tone. Wide open, it can sound like a clavinet-on-meth. Ron Wickersham prefers filters to traditional tone controls. Coupled with the Alembic pickups (as un-colored as the most demanding studio monitors), it gives you a wide range of tones with a very simple circuit.
Alembic later (after this bass' day) developed a bass/treble cut/boost for those who just had to have it, but the filter setups are far superior to me.
This setup will generate some comments that the J pickup isn't 'loud enough'. This is easily remedied as each pickup has its' own preamp gain, essentially a two-channel mixer if you will, so striking a balance between the two is simply a matter of gain adjustment between the two in the back cavity. I will admit it's aggravated a bit by the Alembic P pickup: They'll tell you it's by far the loudest pickup they make, so the two trim pots even this out, or to set a tone that's either neck- or bridge heavy, it's up to you.
Having said that, the Alembic pickups are low impedance, and running them right up under the strings will only yield a very modest gain in output, so you really only adjust the pickup heights for tone; but as always, low impedance pickups don't exhibit the big swings in tone or output as do traditional high impedance pickups.
Gorgeous axe. Maybe not the 'busiest' in terms of the wood recipe, not very exotic, but maple over mahogany is to me, the best 'all rounder' I can think of.
Thanks for explaining the electronics. I would love to see more makers use that lo-hi filter! I do not believe there is a simpler system offering such a wide variety of tones. I could see putting that system on one of my basses, if Alembic still makes it.
Dr., Alembic still makes it, and offers retrofit kits for other axes along with their replacement pickups for non-Alembic instruments.
The best source for all things and info about Alembic instruments is in their forum 'The Alembic Club', the best user's forum on the web, online at www.Alembic.com.
I could see putting that on my DJ5 or Ibanez TMB605.
Most Persuaders have a single preamp, so you can only set the overall gain of the instruments. Elan, Essence and the set neck models (Epic, Orion, Excel) also standard came with a single preamp.
Last year they made the double preamp standard for all models and they sell a module to convert the older models: Pan Preamp
Hey, FCB, good to see you. I stand corrected !
I have an Alembic Persuaders Vector, and it it truly a thing a beauty. And I am talking about the tone. One should not try to judge the tone based upon a you tube clip. The Alembic PJ pickups are some of the best of their kind. And my favorite Alembic pickup.