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JPJ With King Crimson

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Yogi Bear, Nov 16, 2001.


  1. Yogi Bear

    Yogi Bear Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Colorado
    Monday night here in Denver King Crimson is playing with John Paul Jones on bass. I can't wait, my brother won tickets 5th row center. The last time I saw them Tony Levin was on bass and that was an absolutely awesome show. It should be interesting to see JPJ mixing it up with Fripp and the boys.
     
  2. KPJ

    KPJ

    Oct 2, 2001
    Methuen, MA USA
    JPJ is opening for King Crimson. He won't be jamming with Fripp unless they bring him up later. Check out the info on his website.

    www.johnpauljones.com

    BTW, we expect a full report on Tuesday on the show. I am hoping to get tickets to see him when the tour comes to Boston.
     
  3. Yogi Bear

    Yogi Bear Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Colorado
    Sorry, I checked out the King Crimson Web site and you're right. I jumped the gun a bit there. I'll keep everyone posted as to how the show went.
     
  4. D.J

    D.J

    Jan 31, 2000
    The Show is guaranteed with the best bassist of all time!
    Lucky you!
     
  5. man...i wish i could see him this time around...i wonder if he still remembers me...
     
  6. gweimer

    gweimer

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    I'm not surprised by this. JPJ had Trey Gunn on his Zooma release, and wanted to take Gunn out on tour, but King Crimson had first rights. Since JPJ is now part of Fripp's DGM stable, it makes sense that they started doing a few shows together.
     
  7. I just called him, he says no.

    :D
     
  8. thought so...:)
     
  9. Yogi Bear

    Yogi Bear Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Colorado
    Well the show was good, not great. JPJ and King Crimson were both great, but the mix was awful. Way too loud for the venue. I would have to say that the highlights of the show were JPJ playing an electric ukeleyle during one song, and Robert Fripp actually coming to the front of the stage and speaking to a very drunk woman that was dancing. He asked her to sit down in order to be courteous to the people sitting behind her, she got upset and was eventually escorted out of the show. Other than that I have to say that Adrian Belew stole the show. He is an unbeleivable talent and in my opinion does not get enough credit as a musician.
     
  10. jimmysquid

    jimmysquid

    Jul 5, 2000
    The part about Fripp asking the drunk lady to be courteous is too classic.

    Too bad you didn't like the show that much.

    I'm planning on checking them out when they come to Boston although I'm a little less than thrilled that they don't have Tony Levin with them.

    I saw the Trey Gunn band last year at the House of Blues and they were phenomenal. Trey's soloing is really in the same vein as Fripp. But I think I'd rather have him as playing a guitar role w/ KC rather than the bass. I think he's playing one of those Warr touch guitars and I'd rather someone playing a BASS guitar with KC. I guess I'm just old-fashioned...I'll go back to my abacus.
     
  11. Yogi Bear

    Yogi Bear Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Colorado

    I liked the show as far as the act's that were playing I just wish the mix was done better. At times it was a wall of incomprehensible noise, and not the good kind that KC is known for. There were too many times when even Adrians vocals got lost in the mix.

    Ditto all the way about Tony Levin. I'm a big Tony Levin fan myself and was a bit chagrinned to find he wasn't playing either.

    Yup, Trey is truly talented and was playing his Warr guitar, which even though was very cool, I too would have rather seen a "traditional" bass in the mix myself. I guess I'll be seeing you at the abacus depot to get some new counting beads.
     
  12. gweimer

    gweimer

    Apr 6, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Of course, Levin played mostly Stick when he first joined King Crimson. I've seen this band in 3 different incarnations, and each stands on it's own. I didn't miss Levin being there this time around (or Bruford). The new pair of Gunn/Mastoletto is just as incredible. I just found out the Mastoletto was the drummer for The Rembrandts at one time - what a change!
     
  13. Yogi Bear

    Yogi Bear Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Colorado
    Mastoletto was a monster behind the drums. He can hold his own with anyone out there. I think the majority of work that Tony Levin has done with King Crimson was with his Chapman. I would have just like to have seen a bass on some of the earlier songs ala John Wetton, Greg Lake era. Although the Warr did sound great running through two EA cabs. I should also mention that Nick Beggs who played with JPJ played a Chapman as well. He was an incredible stick player. Both Nick Beggs and JPJ were running through a pair of SWR 4x10 cabs and a pair of Marshall stacks.
     
  14. Eric Moesle

    Eric Moesle Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2001
    Columbus OH
    On the Crimson "Deja Vroom" live concert DVD, Tony Levin plays his Stingray 5 bass about 70% of the time, and the Stick the remaining 30% or soalong with an electric upright on a tune or two. Its mostly bass work, not stick.
     
  15. Philbiker

    Philbiker Pat's the best!

    Dec 28, 2000
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Wow I'm going to have to check them out when they come to my area. I love Crimson and agree that Mastelotto is a MONSTER. I also love Gunn's bass work on the Warr Guitar on the latest "ConstruKtion of Light" and also love Belew and think he's an incredible musical talent. :)
     
  16. HeavyDuty

    HeavyDuty Supporting Curmudgeon Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    Whoa.

    Saw JPJ/KC last night here in Chicago.

    Repeat, whoa.

    We got in courtesy of Hugh Manson, JPJ's luthier. (No backstage access, but free front row center ticks - sweet!) We were right behind the four row orchestra pit, entry which is controlled by sex or something.

    JPJ was awesome (of course), playing a pair of Manson 8 strings for about 1/2 of the show, and a mixture of his lap steel bass and mandolin for the rest - including the uke, which caused laughter with jokes from JPJ when he whipped it out - but the man can play! I never picked up the Zooma album, but I will now, along with the new album (Thunder-something) when it comes out.

    Nick Beggs on Stick was amazing, too. Watching him has killed all desire for me to learn Stick - it's too friggin' intimidating after seeing a master at work!

    King Crimson played a solid show. Fripp was his usual eccentric self, sitting in the dark far stage right facing Belew instead of the audience. Belew was in high gear. Trey Gunn on Warr was fantastic, but my sightline to his part of the stage was obstructed by a big mofo' dude to my left in the orchestra pit (their chairs were slightly higher than our seats).

    Sound was great, as is typical for the Chicago Theatre. I still wore hearing protection - my ears are damaged wnough as it is.

    Anybody else ever noticed the Trekkie types that seem to show up at KC shows? I was ready to start greeting people with the Vulcan hand thingie.

    Free ticks, two headliners - what a great evening!
     
  17. you can't even begin to realize how jealous i am right now...
     
  18. They're coming to KC in 2 days...hopefully I'll be able to go! :)