Just auditioned for Lady Gaga's 2010 world tour....

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Mitchthebassplayer, Jan 19, 2010.


  1. fractiouslowend

    fractiouslowend

    Aug 5, 2009
    perth
    a lot of people here are talking about 'selling out'
    it's not selling out if you're doing something that you want to do, and if you want to make money, then it's all good.
    i'm sure no-one on this site gets up in the morning and heads down to the office or wharehouse or whatever for 40 hours a week because they enjoy it. you can call that selling out too if you like:p

    if i was given the chance to play for lady gaga, i would take it in a heartbeat. who cares that her music sounds like it was written by a corporation, or the fact that it's not even about the music (if you don't believe me, try imagining her career without music videos or the stage show) the fact is, it's a job, and it's probably gonna be a hell of a lot more fun than any day job. Go round the world, hang out with other musos, and make some connections:)
    and once the tour begins, i imagine you'd only be working 10-15 hours a week, and i've never thought of playing bass as 'work':)

    if someone wants to send me round the world pretending to play bass to some crappy pop music, all i can say is, where do i sign! :p
     
  2. Roy Vogt

    Roy Vogt

    Sep 20, 2000
    Nashville,TN
    Endorsing Artist: Kiesel, Carvin, Accuracy, Hotwire, Conklin Basses, DNA, Eden
    Nope, it's just an old thread that I poked after seeing Lady Ga Ga and her band on The Today Show here. Your points are good ones-every bassist I know in Nashville (even the A Team guys) have all of those options as part of their lives.
    Case in point: I've spent the last 2 weeks teaching/coaching at a Rock Camp here. Without naming names, here are some of my fellow teachers' past and current gigs:
    Faith Hill, The Allman Brothers Band, Engelbert Humperdinck, Madonna, Amy Grant, The Box Tops, The Flying Burrito Brothers, Lindsey Buckingham, John Hiatt, REO Speedwagon, etc. One teacher (Walter Egan) had a platinum selling album produced by Fleetwood Mac in the late 70s ("Fundamental Roll"). It's good money and from 9-3. The kids are great and it's a good hang, so there you go.
    Most of my money is not made in particularly glamorous surroundings and I think that would be the reality for most of my fellow full-timers.
     
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  3. I wish more mature players would tell young players what it's like to be full-time. The reality for the majority is that it's all about doing a variety of related music jobs, not just gigging and practicing. But I don't find that mature players find this difficult - they enjoy the variety and actually have a lot of fun doing so many different musical challenges. Since becoming a full time musician over the last 9 years, and not going to work in a big corporate as I used to, I can tell you I've done a lot of different jobs and a lot of different playing situations and I've enjoyed all of it and met a lot of great players and characters as a result. Of course I've become unemployable in a big corporate as a result - far too fun loving and radical for those guys. Oh dear! And how long shall I worry about that? About 2 nano-seconds or less.
     
  4. scottyswan

    scottyswan

    Feb 28, 2011
    How does one find out about upcoming auditions?
     
  5. NOLA Bass

    NOLA Bass Mr. Worst Case Scenario Man Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2005
    New Orleans LA
    Endorsing artist: Bergantino Audio Systems
    Great stuff from Roy and Tactician, thanks guys!
     
  6. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    for most major artists, you really have to be plugged into the scene in the major cities and keep your ear to the ground. most of those auditions aren't open to the public, although some are.
     
  7. Roy Vogt

    Roy Vogt

    Sep 20, 2000
    Nashville,TN
    Endorsing Artist: Kiesel, Carvin, Accuracy, Hotwire, Conklin Basses, DNA, Eden
    That's absolutely right in Nashville. I've never gotten an audition that was open call in 30 years here except for one. They've all been by invitation with the exception of Sylvia. There were 40 of us in line at SIR for that one including Paul Gregg from Restless Heart and Charlie Anderson from Thunder, Kevin Welch, and Reba McIntyre.
    When I tell my students about this, they ask, "Who's Sylvia?";)
     
  8. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    lol! i just barely remember a sylvia. there you go...she probably did it open call because nobody would know she was having auditions otherwise ;)
     
  9. ShoeManiac

    ShoeManiac Supporting Member

    Jan 19, 2006
    New Jersey
    Very interesting insights all the way 'round, from the pros to the amateurs. I think this thread really caught my eye because the Gaga tour just came through NYC. It also made it abundantly clear to me that I am nowhere as plugged into the NYC scene as I thought I was. But the one real positive that I've taken from the thread is that it is all about relationships. People call the musicians they like to deal with, and being an easygoing person is just as important as what you can bring to the table musically.

    As for anyone who decries a musician who's auditioning for a gig like this because of a supposed sense of musical integrity? How many of us who work day jobs are working for employers we may not completely agree with in the name of making a living. Conceptually, integrity can be a huge thing. But what about paying the rent? Where does that rate? Or paying for health insurance? Or keeping the lights and heat on?

    I see a range of musicians working their asses off every day in NYC. I see the people busking in the subways. I see the young songwriters playing coffee houses. I see bands from all over in the clubs that will barely pay them at all. I see the broadway guys walking to their shows every night. And I occassionally see some of the guys who do the night time tv shows. So few of these people are able to JUST play music for a living. As someone with the security of a day job who also plays music, I am certainly not going to stand in judgement of anyone who is going out for a gig or tour that could keep them employed for a year or so.
     
  10. ^^^Can I hear an AMEN!!!
     
  11. rockstarbassist

    rockstarbassist Inactive

    Apr 30, 2002
    The Woodlands, TX
    Endorsing Artist: HCAF
    Good thing that Lady GaGa fad has since come and gone, eh? :oops: :oops:
     
  12. Roy Vogt

    Roy Vogt

    Sep 20, 2000
    Nashville,TN
    Endorsing Artist: Kiesel, Carvin, Accuracy, Hotwire, Conklin Basses, DNA, Eden
    She was really the Hot New Act at the time-Jerry Crutchfield was producing her and it paid pretty well. This was as the height of Barbera Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters who Jerry produced as well.
    Here's the gig we were all trying to get. Oh the humanity! :D
     
  13. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    dude! she's not good at all! how does that guy work with barbara mandrell and think this was good? she's really good looking, though, and...

    oh, ok, i get it now....nudge nudge wink wink SAY! NO! MORE!

    but i'd have done that gig and told her she was the greatest every day!
     
  14. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    right. except for the #1 single she has currently.
     
  15. Jawbone

    Jawbone

    Jul 15, 2010
    Humboldt County
    Don't hold back - who is she?
     
  16. GrapeApe

    GrapeApe Inactive

    Nov 9, 2009
    Richmond, Va
    I figured as much with the backing track, I just wonder how much peanut butter it takes to make it look like that horse is singing...
     
  17. Christian Waiau

    Christian Waiau

    Jun 16, 2005
    las vegas/maui, nevada/hawaii
    Endorsing Artist: Spector, Aguilar, Darkglass
    i would kill for this gig....


    i'll return to this later tmottow when im more up to reading...
     
  18. HeadyVan Halen

    HeadyVan Halen

    Jun 11, 2010
    Some of you guys say it's 'selling out' but yet go to work everyday to a job you can't stand?.......Difference is?
     
  19. Rumblefisher

    Rumblefisher Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    Astoria, NY

    Hey I recognize you from the Alleva youtube vids. Nice groove!
     
  20. Roy Vogt

    Roy Vogt

    Sep 20, 2000
    Nashville,TN
    Endorsing Artist: Kiesel, Carvin, Accuracy, Hotwire, Conklin Basses, DNA, Eden
    Actually, go back and listen to some Nashville Music from the era (late 1970s-early 1980s)-scary stuff! It all sounds like "The Love Boat" theme to me now......
    "Can you give me more depth from that phase shifter? Think cheezy Porn soundtrack...":D
    Of course, this is all pre-Autotune. Who knows what anyone sounds like now?
     
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