I keep hearing all the good stuff about them so ive had my eye open for a used one. well today I found one in a pawn shop. He was asking 250 but i talked him down to 190. Ill tell you it damn near has the same amount of balls as my ampeg 610 but it half the weight so I plan to gig with the avatar now cause it is a tone monster and is light and easy to load. Sounds good paired with my Peavey your 450. just wish it wouldnt have the rat furr covering but that can be fixed. But other than that I think they are a superb cabinet for the low budget working musician like myself. Handles the Low B nice doesnt fart. Its not as deep as my ampeg but has a nicer tone in my opinion. If i would have known they sounded this nice I would have ordered one from the factory but i didnt wanna chance someting i couldnt play first. But i just wanted to tell you all thanks for the great info you guys post about these avatar cabs. I may order a couple of 1x12s for smaller gigs.