I'm sure a lot of you guys into house/drum n bass are familiar with Dan Kurtz of The New Deal. Well, I've been trying to cop his smooth octave tone for years and I've never been able to get it right. I realize this thread may turn into a combination of effects and other gear so I apologize, but it is primarily an effects based question. The way his octave tone sounds to me is just so ideal, and I've never been able to get it right. I have an OC2 and an OC3 going into a mf101 with expression control for cutoff (this is pretty much paramount to my setup). I know he's been using an OC2 into an mf101 for years now (as have I) but his sound is so much smoother and rounder. I've obviously messed around with the settings on the moogerfooger enough at this point to be pretty sure there's nothing I haven't done. I always have the dry tone on the OC2 or OC3 all the way down with the octave 1 all the way up. As far as bass goes, I have a warwick corvette proline. I know hes had a warwick corvette, an ibanez and currently uses a fender but regardless he's always seem to have roughly the same tone. I realize that every time I've been to a new deal show I'm hearing him through line arrays and subs so clearly that's making a big difference, but I think there is more to it than just that. I've also been using flatwounds for a while so I'm thinking that might have something to do with, maybe the pickups? There are a million clips of him using his octave tone on their website and on youtube. Here's one example of the tone I'm talking about. - if you scroll down and watch the video "jam" (the 5th video down I believe) you can hear it really coming through at 1:37)....ah just listening to it makes me want that sound so bad. I've tried to get this for years!! help!