Howdy! In my attempts to fling my bass around me (Like Tobin Esperance) I succeeded in making a few rather large dents in my beloved $1000 Ibanez BTB405! Injured my collarbone the first two times coz the strap wasnt long enuf! Tried it with looser strap and WHEEE! off it plunged into a gravel driveway (drummers house). Many furious and shouted explatives spewed forth from my mouth, followed then by fits of laughter from me, the drummer and guitarist. Useless info, really.