and I must say that now I understand why it's the most copied design in the world. I tried it out at guitar center in an isolation room with an ampeg 410, and first off, it's LOUD. Way louder than a B2R (not hard). Also, it sounds great with a guitar as well. Very thick sound. The guitar channel sounds better overall for bass, maybe because I like OD in my bass sound. It's a boat anchor though, and a lopsided one at that. The transformer along with everything else is on one side, with only one handle on top, making it very awkward to carry. It has some Groove Tubes in it, which sound fine. But once they die, i'm gettin some JJs for it. I got it from guitar center, from the one knowledgeable salesperson there (the rest are idiots), and originally it was $399. But it was a little beat up, and there was a backround buzz, so we haggled it down to $349. Once I get my avatars, i'm gonna see if the buzz was just because of bad power at Guitar Center, or if it's something wrong with the amp. But overall, i'm VERY excited about my purchase. Oh by the way, this means I won't be getting that Yorkville head anymore.