just wondering

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by pharcyde, Mar 29, 2001.

  1. I know most people hate korn's music. But I've tried every thing to get the percussive sound that fieldy gets. I have the same model bass and setup and I still can't get the sound. Does anybody know how to get that sound?
  2. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    You might want to scoop out the mids & boost the highs & lows on the bass & your amp.

    P.S I don't dislaike Korn's music. I don't think Feildy is a good bassist. ;)
  3. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    when i was a kid and started to play i recieved this suggestion by bruno, the local guitar and bass guru seller. it sounded like" ...remember, do not buy a bass because your idol plays that bass. if you want a bass that looks like your idol's one, buy it; but if you want that tone it's better you start to study and play seriously first, and that go to a custom shop for that hidden secrets that make your bass super"
    all because i wanted a gibson grabber finished in black, because gene simmons played a black gibson grabber
  4. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I think this is right and I used to see a lot of people who wanted to be like Jaco and buy the same bass and even dress the same - but these people invariably didn't sound like Jaco. I have heard people who managed to sound like Jaco on "tributes" but they have always been people who are concentrating more on studying the music and usually had a completely different set-up to Jaco - differnet bass, amp etc. But they knew what it was that Jaco was trying to do, in terms of note-choice, rhythmic placement in the bar, technique etc.

    Not sure any of this applies to the example in question though! ;)
  5. Agreed. The longer I play, the more I think the sound is in the player, not the gear. A lot of things that players like about another player's sound is in his ability to control and vary articulation, control and vary timbre, and overall phrasing, and those are dependent on his control of the envelope, how much energy and solidity he can get into each note in the attack, how he uses left hand tensioning tricks to retain energy in the string (especially during glisses which cost string energy, or passages that require fluid and seamless combinations of right-hand attacks with hammer-ons and pull-offs) and how he accelerates decay when necessary, and how cleanly and abruptly or smoothly he can release the note. A player can get closer to the sound of a hero's playing by studying macro things like how he constructs his lines in relation to what's going on around him, or micro things like how he executes one particular phrase.
  6. DanGouge


    May 25, 2000
    Everyone who's said it's in the fingers is completely right, but the other thing to consider is the sheer amount of effects Fieldy uses. I'm not a fan of Korn and I don't know the details, but I know he's got a lot in his rig. No one can get a synth sound for example, simply out of playing technique. (And if you can let me know how :D )
  7. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Dan - Amen. It kills me when someone is trying to pose as, "Mr. Musician," and makes a statement like, "It's all in the hands." Bull.

    If that's completely true, then why did Bass Player show complete diagrams of bassists signal chains, why does every bassist article include their precise gear down to their strings along with the technique descriptions? And why does every good bassist I've seen use, at the very least, decent gear, if not exotic, rodded and modded gear, and all kinds of signal processing?

    But, I knew some guys who were in one of these "Beatle clone" acts. They said they could sound like the Beatles using their regular gear, which was high end, but they used the Hofner/Rick/Gretsch because a lot of people on the audiences are that nit picky.

    I don't think you're going anywhere without either component.
  8. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    Because it's eaiser to show what they use, than to show how they use it. Also, you don't think that magazines like Bass Player get kickbacks from these companies. If BP is going to show what Feildy uses, fans will buy them & the effect, amp, cabinet, etc company will be very greatful.

    If you don't know how to play, it dosen't matter how many effects you have!!!! If you never driven before, will a Ferarri help you drive? No, you need some knowledge of basic driving. Same applied to bass playing.
  9. barroso


    Aug 16, 2000
    sure, nino. a ferrari is useless for people not able to drive. and a cheap bass in the hands of a good player is much better than a sadowsky in the hands of a monkey. but i'd like to have both, ferrari and sadowsky.
  10. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Nino - If you considered the other half of my post, you'd realize we pretty much said the same thing, less the "gear thing."

    Nonetheless, you can put a Grand Prix driver in a Ford Escort, and I doubt he's going to be taking Le Mans.
  11. cassanova


    Sep 4, 2000
    i read that he takes out all his mids and highs and has nothing but bottom end in his mix. Just because you have the same exact set up dont mean youll get the same tone...his bass is probobly got different p/ups, made from a diff wood, etc
  12. yea i've got the synth sound and envelope filter sound down. I've tried the low and high boost and can get close but i can't the clicky sound out of it. It maybe his whole rig though. He runs 10's were as i run just 4x15's. May be i should try more punchier speakers than the low rumble of my 15's.

    p.s. I didn't start on Ibanez's just because fieldy plays on them. I love their size and thin necks and sound. I purchased the model he plays in hopes of getting the sound he has.
  13. are you tuning to A?.... that "clicky" sound just comes from the strings hitting the frets... (i think)

    and 4x15?! goddamn!! I would like to get my hands on those ;)

    btw... I don´t hate Korn, but I think Fieldy is a bassplayer trapped in a drummers mind (or something)
  14. Phat Ham

    Phat Ham

    Feb 13, 2000
    If you want to get that clicky sound you'll probably need a tweeter.

    And to comment on the "it's all in your hands" thing I pretty much agree with rickbass1 when he says, "you can put a Grand Prix driver in a Ford Escort, and I doubt he's going to be taking Le Mans." A player with bad hands and great equipment isn't necessarily going to sound good, but a great player with bad equipment might not sound good either.