Keep Markbass LM 3 or get Peavey Classic 400?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by brockkiemel, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. Yes I know we're talking two completely different animals here.

    I recently picked up the Little Mark 3 used from GC. I like it, great tone and easy to transport (never cared about that I'm 28). Here's where I'm stuck. A guy with a classic 400 emailed me back and I could return the markbass and pick up the classic 400 instead. I've never heard the classic 400 but have read great reviews.

    Taking in to account the fact I plan on doing a good amount of touring over the next couple years... Is it worth the extra bulk, and occasional re tubing to ditch the markbass?
  2. If it helps I play heavy rock and roll, use a fender geddy lee w/ SD 1/4lb pups and an ampeg 410hlf
  3. Can you handle lifting the 100 pounds of the Classic 400 every gig? Mine sounds great but it is one heavy mother.

    Also, does the Classic 400 come with its footswitch? If not, Peavey no longer carries them and you will have to make one or have one made. Having the versatility of the footswitch really is what makes the Classic 400 at the top of its class.

    Put in good tubes now, adjust the bias properly per Peavey's instructions, and the tubes should last you several years IMHO.
  4. B-string

    B-string Supporting Member

    You need to take your cab and bass and try out the 400. That is the only way you will know if the MB or Peavey is the better amp for you!
  5. will33


    May 22, 2006
    For me, C400 no contest, but I'm not you.

    That amp is a commitment in more ways than one, but it uses commonly available tubes and schematics are readily available.

    If it turns out not your cuppa tea, you shouldn't have a problem selling it and you can pick up more Markbasses whenever you want.
  6. B-string

    B-string Supporting Member

    Good point will33, you can get the Peavey repaired anywhere should it have problems. The MarkBass you'll most likely be buying a replacement while on the road.
  7. will33


    May 22, 2006
    FWIW, I sold my Bassma135 to fund tubing up my Classic400. I'm 41 and have no issue carrying around 100lbs. worth of amp that does what that thing does. Am also in the very early stages of putting together a bass woofer/guitar driver speaker system for it, but again, I'm not you.
  8. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism

    For me, Markbass, not contest. At three A.M. after 3 hours on stage I do not want to be hauling 100lb head around that I have to be careful with since it is loaded with tubes. I throw my SD800 in a backpack so I can carry my entire stage rig in one trip if I want, obviously that is not an option with an Ampeg 410 in the mix but you get the point. If I was gigging regularly I would think about gigging practicality, especially with a tour in the future. Are you really going to appreciate the tonal difference for all that work? I assure you that your audience won't. This is a personal choice though, my opinion is nothing more than that.

    I would take a D.I. and not worry about either head failing, if they fail odds are you won't be able to get it repaired before your show or you leave to the next town anyways regardless of brand.
  9. will33


    May 22, 2006
    This can be the kicker. For some reason gear is always heavier at load-out than it was at load-in. For me, that few minutes of carrying is nothing compared to the experience of playing it. Somebody else may think the complete opposite and we'd both be right.

    FWIW, the 400 is 24" wide before the handles are flipped out and you have your fists wrapped around those.......narrow doorways, stairs with turns in them, etc.

    Still worth it to me.

    You're young, time to enjoy a giant tube amp. Can use the pocket rockets when you're old. :)

    Nothing quite like playing in front of a big strong tube amp and pile of speakers, especially for rock-n-roll. :)
  10. B-string

    B-string Supporting Member

    When I was MUCH younger and didn't care as much, I bounced two all tube SVT's across the country and back in the front of a 5X8 enclosed single axle trailer. Neither amp had a failure.
  11. Thanks guys... Ill email the guy and see if I can set up a time to check it out. I've always used solid state amps... Mainly gk. I'm interested in seeing what this thing sounds like....

    I can always throw it under the seat in the van for safer travel.
  12. will33


    May 22, 2006
    Your van must have really big seats. :)

    In addition to listening to it, carry it to your van and back 3 times without putting it down. ;)

    Then pick up your Markbass...and be careful not to throw it through the roof. :D
  13. And be sure to inquire about a footswitch!

    I made my FS and have the schematic (that was my schematic I drew, on the old Classic400 website) and pics.
  14. will33


    May 22, 2006
    You are the keeper of the footswitch are a fine human being, sir.
  15. Pay attention to the orientation of the LED's!

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  16. :eek:

    That's a nice amp, sorry to hear it's gone :atoz:
  17. Hi, Is that just a re-wire of what's already in the switch or do I need to pick up anything extra?
  18. Hopefully you can work out a way to test it first. Not everyone loves the amp; I owned one for a time and found it underwhelming.

    I did not like that the amp cannot handle 2 Ohms. An amp that wants to hang with the SVT should. The distortion of the distortion channel was not pleasing to me; buzzy like a Boss Heavy Metal pedal. For all its weight, it was surprisingly low volume. We played too loud at the time, but my 300T, SVT2 Pro and 400+ buried it without breaking a sweat. I might have liked it more if I didn't have those other amps to compare it to. I was able to get a better sounding distortion using its clean channel. I sold it to a guy who loved it and was a big booster of the CL400 rage that went around TB for a while. He made the old classic 400 website, the tweed amp that was his had been mine. I believe he sold the amp eventually however.
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