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Ken Smith vs. Peavey Cirrus Demo

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Dr. Cheese, Feb 22, 2021.


  1. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis


    This is an effective, but short demo. The Cirrus sounds more aggressive. The Ken Smith is more warm or mellow.
     
  2. songwriter21

    songwriter21 I have an obsession for wood. The musical kind. Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Sponsored by Hipshot
    The big PRO of the Cirrus...way cheaper, with the Smith tone and then some...CON is that they haven't made that bass since 2010. Peavey has no more replacement pickups or preamps anymore, either.
     
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  3. Peavey
     
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  4. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    They have made some quality import Cirrus basses since 2010, but not consistently from what I know.
     
  5. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I suppose that the Sadowsky Modern is the best Ken Smith alternative now that the Cirrus is defunct.
     
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  6. songwriter21

    songwriter21 I have an obsession for wood. The musical kind. Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Sponsored by Hipshot
    Meh, nothing worth mentioning...not even close to the US ones, unfortunately.
     
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  7. songwriter21

    songwriter21 I have an obsession for wood. The musical kind. Supporting Member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Sponsored by Hipshot
    I'm the black sheep on TB, as I was anything but impressed with Sadowsky (trip to NAMM). I 'd take an MTD Super or Lull M5 over a Sadowsky Modern any day.
     
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  8. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I think the MTD is great, but from what I have heard, it has more of a Music Man sound. The Sadowsky Modern has more of a Ken Smith sound to my ears.
     
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  9. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    The Sandberg VM2 might be a good alternative:

     
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  10. That smith is set with more of a scooped tone. I would imagine it could sound more like the cirrus with subtle pickup panning or some eqing in the preamp. I'm assuming they have the same formula of strings (nickel wound on hex steel core, vs steel vs round core vs whatever)?

    Cirrus and smith are both great instruments.
     
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  11. kobass

    kobass Supporting Member

    Nov 3, 2003
    Outside Boston
    Nino Valenti also makes a "Modern" bass with two soapbars close to the bridge.
     
  12. Element Zero

    Element Zero Supporting Member

    Dec 14, 2016
    California
    Hmm. Too many variables. Strings? Any eq juice goin on? The Cirrus did sound more bright and open up top, and I know this wasn’t a pro recording, but that B string sounded like garbage.

    *edit

    That Smith B didn’t sound particularly spectacular either.
     
  13. Chef

    Chef Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    May 23, 2004
    Columbia MO
    Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine
    Screen Shot 2021-02-22 at 4.51.25 PM.png I didn't care for the Sadowsky Modern with the stock soap bars in it.
    But with Nordstrand Fat Stacks, it kills.
     
  14. bass12

    bass12 Have you seen my tonsils lately? Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    Yeah, the MTD 535s and Sadowsky Moderns really don’t sound much alike in my opinion, with the Modern sounding much closer to a Smith.
     
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  15. Chuck M

    Chuck M Supporting Member

    May 2, 2000
    San Antonio, Texas
    Having owned several Ken Smith basses and many Peavey Cirrus basses I can say that I much prefer the tone and playability of the Cirrus basses. There is no comparison between the B strings and Ken's insistence on keeping the 34" scale is one of the reasons. Geoff Gould went to 35" scale and it is IMO the perfect scale length for extended range basses.

    The electronics are wonderful in both Smith and Cirrus basses. The build quality is better on most Smith basses but......in every instance the Cirrus basses have set up better than the Smith basses. Whoever did the fret work on the Cirrus basses was an absolute master of the craft.

    I presently own 4 Cirrus basses but also have one Modulus Q6, a Gould ggi6 and a ggi5. I would sooner play one of my basses than any Smith bass.

    As always in preferences.....YMMV and probably will.
     
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  16. ModuMan

    ModuMan How many is too many? Supporting Member

    Feb 23, 2007
    Bristol, CT #19
    I still want a Smith, I think they really do have their own sound.

    I have a Cirrus and a Sadowsky Modern. Both sound great but I don't think I'd confuse them. I prefer the Sadowsky, not to mention the neck feels a lot better to me.

    The Cirrus does sound good though and the B can certainly sound a lot better than the demonstration.
     
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  17. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I was talking about the Super MTD, not the 535.
     
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  18. bass12

    bass12 Have you seen my tonsils lately? Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    Okay, makes sense. I’ve never played a Super 5 and haven’t listened to many demos of them.
     
  19. Altitude

    Altitude An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure. Supporting Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    Denver, nee Austin
    To my ears that demo sounded a lot more like the compressor than it did like either bass.
     
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  20. coyote1

    coyote1

    Mar 23, 2012
    As Paul Reed Smith notes, you can’t get from an instrument what isn’t there in the first place.

    You can always roll back the treble, or knock back the top end sliders on a 31 band EQ, if an instrument is too bright. You cannot boost those sliders enough to add top end clarity to an instrument that does not have it in the first place.
     
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