krist novoselic sound!?!?!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by TrevorNorton, Dec 7, 2007.

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  1. TrevorNorton

    TrevorNorton Inactive

    Jun 8, 2007
    How do i get his sound on a budget (no effect pedals). im so close to taking my amp out in my backyard with a sludgehammer so they can get acquainted with each other. dont ask why i want his sound because i will tell you i worship him. plus do any of you know where i can get an GIBSON RD ARTIST?
  2. Rumblee


    Jan 18, 2005
  3. Rumblee


    Jan 18, 2005
    I have also read that he used genz benz amps as well, but this site does not mention that.
  4. Spector_Ray


    Aug 8, 2004
    That site also doesn't mention he recorded with Warwick basses too, but I guess that didn't fit the whole grunge reputation.
  5. TrevorNorton

    TrevorNorton Inactive

    Jun 8, 2007
    how about other solutions? cheap tube amp, would that work or what
  6. That depends on your idea of cheap. Just as stated before, the only All-Tube Bass Head that new comes in under $700 is the Traynor YBA-200. I love mine, and it was worth every cent I paid for it. But I remember the last thread you posted on this same subject, other members and myself mentioned this and you essentially ignored us.

    If your really dead set on something dirt cheap, your gonna have to do some waiting while surfing eBay, Craigslist, and the TalkBass classifieds for OLD Traynor Amps (YBA-1's and YBA-3's), Vintage Fender Bassman Heads (the low watt tube heads from the 50's-70's, not the new ones), The Ernie Ball 130 tube head (Solid State Preamp, Tube Power Amp).

    All of those old, low watt Tube heads will run used reasonably under $400. None of them will get very loud, but they'll all get that overdriven, gritty sound you want.

    Anything less than that, and your going to have to get over this pre-notion that effects are evil and get a Sansamp BDDI.
  7. TrevorNorton

    TrevorNorton Inactive

    Jun 8, 2007
    well anthony i dont have 400 bucks lying around thats why i keep asking. i dont want an all tube just a tube in the preamp section so i can get a growl like tube tone. plus im going to save up for a hiwatt custom 100 and convert it to 200 watts with KT90 tubes anyway im just asking what to look out for.
  8. Jonyak


    Oct 2, 2007
    Ottawa, Ont
    If 400$ is expensive to you, you will have alot harder of a time even buying bass stuff on the cheap. $400 is about as cheap as you will get anything.

    PS: Hiwatt amps are going to run you alot more than 400$
  9. asad137


    Jan 18, 2007
    Just upgrading the tubes won't get you to double the output power. You would also need to upgrade the input power and output transformers.

  10. TrevorNorton

    TrevorNorton Inactive

    Jun 8, 2007
    oh i know about the hiwatt believe me but for right now give me more ideas. something that will sound great (tube tone) but solid state reliability. please or im going to start a new forum.
  11. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Holland, MI
    Who said tube amps are less reliable than tube amps? I've not found that to be the case at all.

    You're going to start a new forum if we don't give you the answers you want right now? :eyebrow:

    Just get a GK head like a 400RB and you'll be fine. They have great tone and great reliability and are available for cheap.
  12. just get a GK 800rb

    not tube, but sounds great. $300 used, atleast mine was
  13. The easy answer... eBay. There's usually 1 or 2 available but be prepared to pay over $1500.00 USD
  14. You keep asking and we all keep telling you, at less than $400 your options are pretty limited. Just like the last thread you started, your going to get a lot of the same reactions as before. The answers don't magically change.

    GK isn't a bad reccomendation. They are reliable and good sounding amps, but they are SS amps, which isn't a bad thing. Its just different. Tons of rock bassists use them, and they were very popular in the 90's when a lot of the grunge stuff like Nirvana was going down.
  15. BTW, that site also doesn't mention that he recorded ALOT with a Trace Elliot combo that had a 15" speaker. Whatever the "second tier" series was, that was it because it wasn't an SMX combo that I remember from the pictures, and it is fairly easy to get his tone with most old big Trace combo amps. That Trace upper midrange is the key.
  16. Trevor, do you have a part-time job? I'd definitely recommend one if you have such lofty gear-GAS!
  17. TrevorNorton

    TrevorNorton Inactive

    Jun 8, 2007
    no part time job. i enjoy coming home from school and just practicing every night for two hours or so. but im sure you guys can give me different answers. im just naive for not listening but, i want a great sounding amp (tubes or not), cheap, and i dont care about power or wattage right at this point in my life. THANKS IF YOU CAN HELP
  18. Eric Cioe

    Eric Cioe

    Jun 4, 2001
    Holland, MI
    I don't get it. A bunch of people have recommended stuff. For example, a few of us have mentioned Gallien Krueger as a good option, with good tone. Others have mentioned Trace Elliott as a good option, with good tone. What is wrong with those recommendations? What about these suggestions doesn't work for you?
  19. TBUser


    Oct 26, 2007
    New Zealand
    Here's a way to get a classic Krist Novoselic sound on the cheap. Set up a mic, grab any old bass (preferably some sort of Gibson if you want it to be truly authentic), toss it high in the air and let it land on your head. Now make sure you capture the recording on the mic - you may need to do it a few times to make sure you get a good take. To get the perfect sound make sure you also capture the sound as you hit the floor. (The Krist head bang sound)

    If you're not happy with that genuine Krist Novoselic sound then at the very least you'll realise that some of the other suggestions above weren't too bad after all.
  20. ishouldbeking


    Feb 5, 2007
    Maybe one of the lower end ashdowns? Hard to say, the OP seems pretty resistant to suggestions. Personally I'd say the GK stuff wont' really get you into tube sounding territory.

    Here's a cheap suggestion: get a Behringer BDI 21. It's $30, sounds almost exactly like a sansamp bddi (which is the cheapest way to approximate the sound of an SVT). they're not sold in too many online stores, but i think amazon may stock them.
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