well, as it turns out, the thuya bass is not to be, seems like the top didn't want to be cooperative and since the F bass tops are actually bent, we did not want to risk it, so I have a Maccasar topped F bas in the works... MEANWHILE..... I reacquired Larry Keller's Ceruse BN5, perfect for my upcoming show orchestra gig where I have to wear a tux ...this bass smokes! and.. my BN5 fretles custom came in.. it's basically a BN5 with a fretless diamonwood fingerboard with black lines.. new F basspreamp tuned for fretless.. i will switch the hardware to chrome, and Carey Nordstrand will build me a sort of fingerboard extension/ramp out of diamondwood that will attach somehow and reach the neck pickup...the bass sounds amazing. so , sort of a black Christmas around here.. but a good kinda black... welcome to the dark side..