Larry Graham's Fuzz-Wah

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by WovenGraphite, Dec 9, 2005.

  1. I was watching the tape from LG last night ("Bass Attack") and in the section about his effects he is talking and showing how he uses his fuzz-wah... it looks like a morley but they taped all the brands (I guess avoiding the endorsement...).
    Any ideas what it is? I love the sound and action of that thing...

  2. funky_bass_guy

    funky_bass_guy Guest

    Jul 30, 2004
    Hmm I wasnt aware he used a wah... I think his fuzz is a Juggernaut or the built in fuzz on his roland jet phase or acoustic 360 heads...
  3. Ok, I'll try to upload a pic or a small section of the video
  4. Its the Roland Jet Phaser and it Kicks @$$!
  5. funky_bass_guy

    funky_bass_guy Guest

    Jul 30, 2004
    If you could upload a clip that would be awesome, I am a big Larry fan :)

  6. somebody PLEASE tell me where i can buy that juggernaut pedal im DESPERATE haha
  7. K-T


    May 25, 2007
    tasmania, australia
  8. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    ...and if you search on "juggernaut" here you'll learn something interesting about it. ;)
  9. hahha i watched this video, earlier in the day. Larry Graham has got some sweet pedals.
  10. dirtgroove


    Jan 10, 2003
    Taipei, Taiwan
    Alright, I can't just sit here and let you buy it and pay for postage and import duties. Larry's Juggernaut is the only one on the face of the planet that sounds any good. The one's they sell in the shops have the same name but also have absolutely NO mojo about them as far as I'm concerned. I highly recommend trying one out before buying one and have it shipped to Australia.
  11. haha will do thanks for the tip
  12. eyvindwa

    eyvindwa Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2007
    Oslo, Norway
    Now, how about that phaser - does it make that sound on its own, or is it in combination with the jugger?
  13. It does both the fuzz and the phaser on its own. I have one, it's such an amazing pedal!
  14. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    +1, that's why I made that comment about searching on the name. Everybody has watched that video, and everybody wants his distortion tone, but to the best of my knowledge nobody else has ever found a good-sounding Juggernaut, only Larry. Like a lot of older or cheaper transistor designs, the sound varies hugely from one unit to the next, and supposedly he tried out a great many of them before finding one that sounded good.

    I had a Jet Phaser for a few years too, and it really is a great sound. We've had many threads on how to achieve it without buying the original (which runs about $400 on Ebay), but the only "easy" way is using a digital modeling pedal with a patch that is supposed to mimic the Jet Phaser.
  15. assboglin

    assboglin Inactive

    Jul 13, 2007
    It's a fuzz phaser, with the phaser being actuated by a treadle like a wah. The sound is somewhat similar to a wah, which is why you can get them confused. It's a vintage and hard to find pedal, possibly a Maestro but I don't remember for sure. The closest thing I've gotten, and it's still a long way off, is with the Dunlop 105Q.

    And Larry Graham doesn't use the Juggernaut on his Funk Bass Attack video, which is not the one you find on youtube, he uses a Lovetone Big Cheese.
  16. The Lurker

    The Lurker

    Aug 16, 2002
    yeah, the video where he uses the Juggernaut is something like 15 years old now-- he hasn't used that pedal in a loooooong time.
  17. detroitfunk


    Oct 29, 2007
    Larrys blowin a bit of smoke in that one vid - he claims "Dance to the Music" is the first recorded use of fuzz bass.

    A little tune called "Think for Yourself" featuring Sir Paul on Rubber Soul, 1966.

    Can anyone think of an earlier fuzzbass track ?
  18. haha nice spot dude :D though i think rubber soul might have been 1965
  19. The Lurker

    The Lurker

    Aug 16, 2002
    Well, to be fair he did say "the first song HE was aware of"

    Think for Yourself was an album track rather than a big single, and it's not a very well-known Beatles song. Also, personally, I used to think that the fuzz bass was a fuzz guitar part, since Paul's playing up high and the thing sounds thin.
  20. detroitfunk


    Oct 29, 2007
    "i think rubber soul might have been 1965"

    ah yeah it is - I was about 30 days off on that: Dec 65.

    Fair enough that Larry qualifies the fuzz track as the first he was aware of - but dude has SO much he can already take credit for as far as innovations.

    Paul played the Think For Yourself fuzz track on the Hofner through - I believe - a Gibson Maestro guitar fuzz. Using a guitar pedal surely thinned out his fuzz sound, plus he usually played the Hofner high up on the neck. This is more apparent when you strip the Hof of its natural low resonance with that guitar pedal. Most of the bass tones we associate with Pauls sound came about through his relationship with Geoff Emerick, the EMI engineer. He wasnt really working on Pauls tone until Revolver, starting with the Paperback Writer/Rain single.

    The fuzzbass is played in unison with the regular bass track - and its even mentioned in the album liner notes.

    Back to Larry - about the slapbass thing. I would credit the doghouse guys with originating slap bass. If anything, Larry innovated the use of slap specifically on the electric bass guitar.

    Rockabilly/bluegrass guys slap the hell out of that board when they play.

    All semantics, entirely - as Larry RULZ.