Learning Scales

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by trust24, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. trust24

    trust24 Guest

    Nov 4, 2008
    i know there are billions of threads on this somwhere already, but im learning scales at the minute, now i know there are many different kinds, but i dont understand why they are made the way they are, for example the c scale i learnt goes c,d,e,f,g,a,b,c i get that. But the b scale i learnt goes b,c,d,e,f#,g,a,b. Now why is there suddenly a f# instead of just F
  2. trust24

    trust24 Guest

    Nov 4, 2008
    right ok, that makes sense i think
  3. DocBop


    Feb 22, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Learn the major and natural minor scale till you know them inside out. The pattern of whole-steps and half-steps, degree names, harmonized and etc. Because the major and natural minor will become your points of reference making learning other scales and modes later easy. Even on your bass learn to play a major scale on one string up and down that really makes the scale "visible". Then learn it on 2 strings. That really ties scale knowledge to the fingerboard..
  4. trust24

    trust24 Guest

    Nov 4, 2008
    no i dont take offense, ive got bass for dummies although i found it quite hard to get into, does this make me a dummie?
  5. 4bpauly

    4bpauly Guest

    Jan 23, 2008
    Toronto, ON Canada
    that isn't how the "b scale" goes...if you are referring to the b major scale it is b c# d# e f# g# a# (b)

    think of this c major is - c d e f g a b c

    now look at the distances between each note
    c-d whole step (2 frets)
    d-e whole step (2 frets)
    e-f half step (1 fret)
    f-g whole step (2 frets)
    g-a whole step (2 frets)
    a-b whole step (2 frets)
    b-c half step (1 fret)

    so the major scale goes - whole whole half whole whole whole half

    now apply this to the b major scale

    b-c# whole step (2 frets)
    c#-d# whole step (2 frets)
    d#-e half step (1 fret)
    e-f# whole step (2 frets)
    f#-g# whole step (2 frets)
    g#-a# whole step (2 frets)
    a#-b half step (1 fret)
  6. trust24

    trust24 Guest

    Nov 4, 2008
    ah right that makes perfect sense, thanks for that
  7. caeman

    caeman The Root Master

    Sep 17, 2008
  8. fearceol


    Nov 14, 2006
  9. mambo4


    Jun 9, 2006
    +1 to in depth learning of the major scale. I generally think of all scales in terms of how the match up with the major scale.

    In addition to practicing it on 1 and 2 strings, it is also valuable to isolate the root- interval relationships of the scale and know their various shapes on the neck. For example, figuring out all the ways to play a root- 5th or root-major 3rd ect...
  10. MStrianese


    Jul 26, 2008
    New York
    This only applies to major scales, when formulating the scale, the formula is

    Whole Step, Whole Step, Half Step, Whole Step, Whole Step, Whole Step, Half step
    or easier:

    W W H W W W H

    For a C scale,

    A whole step from C is a D then a whole step from D is an E a half step from E is an F a whole step from F is a G a Whole step from G is an A a whole step from A is a B and the Half step from B gets back to your C.

    I don't know how much you know but based on the "12 tone system" there is no sharped note between a B to C or between an E to F, although you may stumble across one in times of sheet music, its customary to refer to it as a Cb and not a B# or an Fb and not an E#, so that would make your notes in ascending order:

    A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G#

    (Www.musictheory.net) !

    Hope I helped,
  11. baddarryl


    Oct 26, 2008
    Cape Fear!
    Search on the "Circle of Fifths" to help you understand the order of sharps and flats through the minor and major scales.