Leasing a hybrid

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by Gorn, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. Gorn

    Gorn Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    My lease is up and if I can get a hybrid for the same price or a little more, maybe I will. I've leased four cars in a row now (three Toyotas and a Honda) and never had a problem that required service. Are the hybrids just as reliable? I'm thinking either a Camry, Accord, Corolla or a Civic. I don't have a heavy foot or care about speed or storage space. When things were normal I was filling up about once ever two weeks with the Corolla. My commute won't change in the foreseeable future. Can I expect substantially better mileage or it'll only be marginal? Filling up once a month would be nice.
     
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  2. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    If you are driving that little, it doesn't seem worth the extra cost and issues.
     
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  3. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    How many miles a week are you driving??
     
  4. Gorn

    Gorn Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    About 150 is my work commute. Besides that I don't drive much.
     
  5. viribus

    viribus Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2011
    Pacific Northwest
    I never actually learned to play very well
    You need to choose between a "regular" hybrid, and a PHEV. PHEV = Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle. Plugin hybrids like a Prius Prime have much greater range on pure electric drive than regular hybrids. You might be able to do 80% or more of your driving on battery power only. A regular hybrid will automatically switch between gas and electric as needed but they usually have a very short range on just electricity.

    Remember that in a "regular" hybrid, all the energy needed to move the car ultimately comes from gasoline. There is no free lunch. There is greater efficiency though.

    With a PHEV, if you have access to public parking with free EV charging, you can power the car essentially for free for most of your driving. Even if you charge it at home, it's likely to cost less than gasoline.

    Also, a PHEV will usually get you a higher federal tax credit. Depends on the model's battery capacity. But the buy-in price is higher. Lots of factors to consider.

    EDIT: For a PHEV lease, I don't think the tax credit affects you. HOWEVER, someone will get that tax credit, whether it's the selling dealer or the finance company. That's a price negotiation tool that works in your favor.
     
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  6. Gorn

    Gorn Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    Yah it's probably gonna be the regular hybrid version of the Camry, or something similar.
     
  7. viribus

    viribus Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2011
    Pacific Northwest
    I never actually learned to play very well
    Interesting personal observation about local Toyota dealers. They never have a Prius anywhere near the showroom or the main entrance to the dealer where you pull in. SUVs, crossovers, and trucks get very prominent display. You have to hunt for Priuses way in the back lot.
     
  8. Gorn

    Gorn Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    I don't know. I'll just go with whatever gets me in and out of the dealership the fastest. I don't care. I didn't even test drive the last one. What's important to me is never having to take it in. In twelve years I've never had to deal with a car problem. I wanna keep that going. I'll probably just get a regular Camry.
     
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  9. A regular Camry is a bit hungry on fuel. A hybrid Camry will save you rather more than a Prius v Corolla.
     
  10. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    I can't see the benefit of a hybrid of you're only doing 150 miles a week.
     
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  11. jmattbassplaya

    jmattbassplaya Supporting Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    I can’t speak to hybrids, but I saw a newer Accord the other day and thought it looked mighty sharp.
     
  12. Rough estimate 15l of fuel per week saving. More in stop start city traffic, less on motorways.
     
  13. I have owned two hybrids. Roughly, I fueled up about half as often as with my regular gas powered cars. I don't think it saved me any money but I felt better about the environmental impact. So there are reasons beyond the bottom line if you care about those things. But it probably won't save you money, the difference in cost probably won't be less than what you save in fuel costs.
     
  14. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    So a $35 per month savings on gas.

    What's the cost difference between leasing a hybrid versus a regular car?? I'm thinking more than $35 a month.
     
  15. @65c per litre x 15 x4⅓ = $42 per month. $504 annual.

    2k on a 4 year lease might well be a bit light to justify on fuel alone, although good resale on hybrids might push the lease down even when the capital cost is higher???
     
  16. Mike N

    Mike N Missing the old TB Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Spencerport, New York
    I calculated the $35 a month on current NY (where the op lives) prices at $2.19 a gallon. Honestly, I don't know what that translates to in liters because I don't speak metric. :D
     
  17. At 150 miles a week, I'd opt for a plug-in electric car. Anything more, or for long trips/overnight, get a Prius. Most other hybrids don't really get that much of an improvement in gas mileage to justify the additional expense. But the Prius gets crazy mileage. We have an '07 at work. It gets about 48 mpg and is surprisingly peppy and roomy. The newer Priuses are even better.
     
  18. Gorn

    Gorn Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    Plug in isn't an option. I'll probably get a regular Civic. I'd love a Sequoia or Odyssey but as a single caucasian male in my mid to late thirties, I'd immediately become a murder suspect. And they're expensive. $400 a month lease.
     
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  19. viribus

    viribus Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2011
    Pacific Northwest
    I never actually learned to play very well
    Magic 8-Ball says “You clearly know what you need”.
     
  20. Gorn

    Gorn Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    I went to test drive an Accord. Didn't take long. About ten minutes. They let me drive it alone. Went back to sit down and talk to someone. "I'll be right with you" five times in 20 minutes. I got up and left.