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Leaving Before the Gig is over?

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by Croox, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. Croox


    Sep 16, 2007
    South Side Chicago
    We've all done it. Played, packed up bailed out before the last band plays. But what kind of impression does it make of your band? Me personally, I love watching other bands play, just to see how other bass players style of playing what the play how they fair in the mix and how they play with the drummer. we had this discussion after our show on Saturday. Granted the venue screwed up and put a thrash metal band on last after an acoustic act, a pop rock band and a christian rock band. But I think it says a lot about the other bands, not being professional, or having any class, or respect to the other musicians playing.

    What about you Guys? how do you handle it? I know If I end up playing lighter stuff, I remember those band names, and I will refuse to play any other shows with them. :scowl:
  2. jgroh

    jgroh Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2007
    I hear what you are saying but, unless I have absolutely nothing to do, which is almost never, then I am not hanging around to watch some other band play. I am of course 37, wife, kid (another on the way this week), my own business, full time job, etc etc...so my time is limited. When I was 22 it might have been different but, I dont think its rude to leave after your band is finished. If you have friends in that band and you promised to hang out and then leave, I could see, but I dont feel its rude.
  3. Freddels

    Freddels Musical Anarchist

    Apr 7, 2005
    Sutton, MA
    I can be packed up and driving down the street before the cymbals stop ringing. :)

    I'm probably not going to hang around to hear another band unless I know them or of them and want to stay.
  4. dj150888


    Feb 25, 2008
    Belfast, Ireland
    It all depends, sometimes time constraints (flights etc) mean we have to leave before the night is over (getting the sh1tty flights can sometimes save us £100 or more, which I'd rather have in my back pocket rather than some airlines).

    I do however, make an effort to socialise with other bands during the night and if this is gonna happen, I tell them and apologise. I don't think you should be obliged to do that at all though, I know if someone left during my set, I wouldn't immediately think, "What a b*tch, they're leaving to spite us."

    And why the hell should I sit through a band I don't like? Your crowd are there to sit through your music, I'm there to play my gig.
  5. Skapunkgiz


    Jul 8, 2008
    Bristol, UK
    I always stay and watch the last band - normally just to get drunk :)

    I find it weird that when we headline shows, the rest of the band dont stick arround to watch the supporting acts. Tis a good way to gage what the crowds like in my opinion :)
  6. mdiddium


    Jun 21, 2004
    Philadelphia, PA
    I'm definitely guilty of doing this at times but I try to at least listen to a few tunes before I take action. After that, if it's not something I dig, I don't feel as bad. Everyone has their own reasons for leaving. I have certainly encountered bands that don't stick around no matter what the reason, which really does nothing but hurt the scene plus the decency and respect that should exist between bands in the same city.

    Of course, if you are on an exhausting tour and just want to head out, that's one thing. Additionally, if it is what the OP is talking about (definitely a situation I've been in before) where the venue pays no regard to matching bands on a bill, I'd be pissed and leave too. We've played too many venues that just put bands together to make money without trying to match them stylistically.
  7. alapantera


    Mar 22, 2004
    We've had to cut out early a few times. Several of our band members (myself included) have jobs where we need to be there at 7am or earlier the next morning. Depending on where we're playing you can sometimes add a good 1.5 hr drive back to our practice space to unload the equipment before we can call our night "over". We usually try to stay for at least 1 or 2 songs from the last band, but we almost always let them know of our situation ahead of time.
  8. Croox


    Sep 16, 2007
    South Side Chicago
    I've played with married people and people with kids, Its not hard to get someone to watch them. I work 60hrs a week and still can juggle a band a few side projects and writing my own stuff.

    I think it also says a lot about the music scene in your area, If other bands don't give a rats ass about the other acts at a show, why should the fans? I think it also works against the bands for networking, and for the opportunity for more gigs.
  9. Croox


    Sep 16, 2007
    South Side Chicago
    the venue normally does match up bands, they just screwed up. actually they got a show this upcoming Saturday that's all metal bands that was the date they intended to but us for but there was some mis-communication. and when they found out it was too late to switch us over.
  10. DanielleMuscato


    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    Unless we have to hit the road, I like to stay and watch the other band(s). I don't drink while I'm working, so if free drinks are part of the deal, they come after I load out. It's also nice to chat with the audience, and of course this is a good time to sell merch as well. What's not to like?
  11. waynobass


    Feb 27, 2008
    Having to endure an awful, inexperienced, trite, and/or just plain lame band. Which unfortunately describes the majority of bands.
  12. seanm

    seanm I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize! Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2004
    Ottawa, Canada
    If it is an open jam, I think it is rude to show up, play, then immediately leave unless you have another gig.

    A question for people who have to leave early due to family or work: What do you do when you are the last band? Or do you just only play as openers?
  13. SanDiegoHarry

    SanDiegoHarry Banned Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2008
    San Diego, CA
    I've done both - but I've always been a working guy, so If I play my 9pm showcase, unload and pack, It's 10:30 by the time I can actually watch someone play - and have to be up early... so I'll usually come in, check out a few min and then bail. No offense intended, I'm just not a creature of the night.

    Another thing is gear security - I don't like leaving my kit in my car in some bar/club parking lot... but that's me.

    And as far as the open jam comment, I agree. You're not there to just play, you're there to schmooze/network/enjoy (in theory). I haven't done one of those in a while, but I figure to shortly - and I'll show up early and make a night of it.
  14. xshawnxearthx


    Aug 23, 2004
    new jersey
    depends on the situation.

    if there is a band i want to see or i am friends with, i stay. if not, no...care....ever.

    if i have never heard of the band, i will stay to hear the first song, if it's not to my liking, i've got other **** i could be doing.
  15. jgroh

    jgroh Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2007
    Well I work 80 hours a week and obviously you dont have kids. Yeah, I can get just anyone to watch the kids until 1:30 am...they are lining up at the door.

    Im sure there will be times when you cant stay so you cant judge anyone else any more than they can judge you.
  16. mfgl


    Jul 1, 2008
    Altoona PA
    I know around here at least someone from each band has to leave or else your equipment will get stolen from your vehicle.
  17. Mojo-Man


    Feb 11, 2003

    In a multi-band situation.
    If the other later band is good I might stay.
    It's 50/50.
  18. jgroh

    jgroh Supporting Member

    Sep 14, 2007
    When you can plan for it, thats one thing. If you know you are on last you can show up later, but before this turns into a heated debate where single people that have no idea what its like to have kids or wives/husbands versus married people with kids, lets keep it on topic.
  19. Eilif

    Eilif Holding it down in K-Town. Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2001
    This has unfortunately been my experience. I'm not a full time professional, but over the past 5 years, I've probably played about 70 shows or so. I used to stick around to "support" local music, and the end result is that I have sat thorugh countless hours of some of the worst music you can imagine.

    If a band is playing that I want to hear, or one that our band wants to build a relationship with, I'll stay. Additionally, I usually stay to hear at least the first song or two of whatever band plays after us, and if it's good I may stick around. Otherwise, if I'm not hanging around with my bandmates, my stuff is already packed, and I am quietly slipping out the back.

    Chicago venues often book in excess of 4 bands a night, and if I'm playing at 9 or 10, I'm not waiting around until 1AM just to pass out warm fuzzies to the band that couldn't draw. (sorry if that sounded a bit harsh)

    5 years ago I felt the same way as the original poster, now I feel that "Life's to short for bad music!"

    As for the question regarding those with work or family, when we are the last band...

    My band is all made up of working adults. We are fairly tallented and have a moderate, but dependable draw. When playing a multi-band-a night venue we like to play 2nd or 3rd in a lineup of 4 bands. We let the venue know that our audience usually is most availalble durring those slots.

    Occasionally we are the last band, and in that case, we will often show up a band or two before our slot. If it's a very strict venue requiring an early evening sound check we would show up early, do a soundcheck and then go get some dinner, though this rarely happens. Most times we arrive at a gig 60-90 minutes before showtimes regardless of where or what time we play.

    Most gigs that go late (past 12) for us are gigs where we are playing 2-4 sets of music, and in those cases we are usually the only band.
  20. Lots of working giggers have responsibilities beyond hanging out to see another band. Kids, job, wife, etc. Also, "leaving before the gig is over"?? When our part of the show is done my gig IS over. It's "their" gig now.

    Now if it's someone in the next band I know I might stay for a couple of tunes to be polite or to check out some new bass or whatever and then I gotta go. But truthfully unless I'm doing a festival I don't play gigs with multiple acts.

    Now at a jam it burns my butt to see someone make a grand entrance, expect to play ahead of others and then leave as soon as their stellar performance is done.:scowl:

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