I started playing bass 30+ years ago, but I did give it up for 22 years; however I did continue to play a party or a luau every now and then with other musician friends during that hiatus. I decided to get back into the game a little over a year ago, and we've started playing on a regular basis (4 - 5 times a month) sometime back in April. When I'm playing my 4-stringer, a Stu Hamm Urge-II, I generally know precisely where my left hand is supposed to be without looking at the fretboard. Some things one never forgets... However, about three months ago I purchased my first ever 5-stinger, a Thumb-5 NT. I'm still getting used to playing it, and I must admit that I have to look at the fretboard more often. Here's my dilemma: I was playing a gig this past weekend, and I decided to only take the Thumb bass. The stage in this funky beer joint was pretty dark, and I had a tough time on occasion finding the correct hand position. My eyesight certainly isn't as sharp as it was 20 years ago... as is the case with most of you old fogies out there, too! One thing I've noticed is the fact that the neck on this bass is longer than my Stuey... or at least it appears to be so, which is also taking some getting used to. I was dropping a few chops during the gig because of this site problem. Anyone out there using basses with the LED markers? If so, what's your axe? Do you rely on them, and/or find them useful? I realize that the LEDs appear mostly on the most high-end instruments, so has anyone ever heard of a customized neck for some of the "more affordable" axes out there?