Lets hear it for sweet 70's SOUL music * it's solid *

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by Selecter, Jul 23, 2003.

  1. Selecter


    Jun 30, 2003
    Man. Just got a hold of a song I have not heard for years - Jerry Butler's version of "If Loving You Is Wrong ( I Dont Wanna Be Right )" and the tune is blowing my mind! SO DAMN FUNKY and soulful. I love **** like this! Anybody knows who the bassist was on this tune? He was on his game that day.

    Some of the best bass ever was played on music like this, and I dont remember a lot of it, I was a kid in the 70's so I didnt hear it first time around. How bout some of you old time groovers hip me onto the best soul grooves? I already got the primer down: lots of James Brown and Al Green, P Funk too. I want to know about the rest.
  2. oh man curtis mayfield got me into 70's soul. the superfly album is full of tasty grooves. it flows so nicely too.
    R.I.P. curtis
  3. Turock

    Turock Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2000
    You got a pretty good list, I would add:

    Marvin Gaye
    Billy Paul
    Otis Redding
    Curtis Mayfield
    Stevie Wonder
    Ray Charles

    Yep, I'm an old geezer. I love that **** too. IMO, some of the best bass lines you'll ever hear come from the old Motown stuff; great vocals and vocal harmonies too. You might want to check out Standing in the Shadows of Motown, if you haven't already.
  4. Also:
    The Commodores
    Earth Wind and Fire
    The Ohio Players
    The Spinners
    The O-Jays

    You may also want to look for some Funk compilation records with lots of stuff from different artists.
  5. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Are you sure? I didn't know Jerry Butler did a version. I know of Luther Ingram's version only.
  6. Selecter


    Jun 30, 2003
    Thats what I thought but I just figured it was another version - I dont have what I *know* to be the original version, and I didnt think it was far off base to have Jerry Butler listed as the man. I'll have to double check.

    Regardless, that song be funky.
  7. Check out the Chi-Lites "Have you seen her"
    Anything by Curtis Mayfield is the sh*t.
    Also a must, The Spinners, Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes (Teddy Pendergrass' band), Johnny "guitar" Watson, The Barkays and Rufus.
    The 70's was indeed rich with melody!
  8. Now I know James Ingram and I know Luther Vandros, but I never heard of Luther Ingram.. Who be that?
  9. fclefgeoff

    fclefgeoff Supporting Member

    Jan 3, 2002
    Clarence Carter
    Solomon Burke
    Donny Hathaway
    Joe Tex
    Wilson Pickett
    Ray Charles
    Sam Cooke
    Jackie Wilson
    Little Milton

    (Though some of these guys were a bit more popular in the 60's)
  10. Turock

    Turock Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2000
    I'm not so sure about Jerry Butler either; however it's possible, that song has been recorded by people such as:
    Luther Ingram
    Bobby "Blue" Bland
    Isaac Hayes

    Even Tom Jones, Rod Stewart, and Barbara Mandrell did versions of it.
  11. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
    ...love how this tune was used in A Very Brady Sequel.

    The Temptations' '70s output with producer Norman Whitfield(Cloud Nine, Psychedelic Shack etc).
    Definitely Aretha Franklin with either Chuck Rainey or Jerry Jemmont(e.g. Young, Gifted, & Black...very cool cover of "The Long & Winding Road").
    Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway("Where Is The Love"? Rainey, again).

    EARLY releases by-
    Brothers Johnson
    Earth, Wind, & Fire
    Tower Of Power

    Gladys Knight-"If I Were Your Woman"
    King Floyd-"Groove Me"
    Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose-"Treat Her Like A Lady"
    Mel & Tim-"Backfield In Motion"
    Friends Of Distinction-"Grazin' In The Grass"
  12. Thor

    Thor Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Wrote that on another thread, so I copied it doesn't work for the seventies per se, but sure works for the 60's. And there are some funky tunes there to get into.

    I liked the Stevie Wonder stuff, Reggae Woman,
    10,000 Light years away' or what ever the title was on that Feel it, feel the spirit song.

  13. BigTed


    Jul 1, 2002
    San Diego
    I don't think anyone has mentioned the Meters yet. Them and the Ohio players would definently have to be my favorites.

    If you're interested in a good sampling of the many greats and lesser-known artists of that era check out "Shaolin Soul." Its a cd (not available in US stores) that takes all the great songs from the era that have been subsequently sampled by today's rap producers.

  14. Oh yeah another great 70's band was the Whispers. They were the best at the love ballads.
    Ditto on the Meters.
  15. BassGuyNL


    Jul 20, 2000
    The Netherlands
    Now '70 soul was REAL music! Todays techno pop and so called R'n'B is so artificial and severely lacks the human touch that is so present in music from the 70's. However, whenever I hear today's radio music and think "that's not music" I must admit at the same time that my parents used the exact same words for the music that I grew up with!

    I heard '70's icon Chaka Khan put it best when asked what the major difference was between the music scene nowadays compared to 25 years ago. Her answer: "back in the day, you needed a certain talent and proficiency on a musical instrument to make a record. Now everyone and their mother can make a record"!
  16. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Bass player quiz for ya? Can you guess who played bass for most of the vocal groups on the Solar record label? Hint: He was the oldest family member of a disco singing group!
  17. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    If you don't know, you probably weren't alive back then(early 70's). He was literally a one hit wonder who sang "If Loving You Is Wrong (I Don't Wanna Be Right)" There's been mention of other versions but I've been diggin' R&B, Funk & Soul music since the late 60's and I've never heard any other radio aired versions.
  18. Well I was alive and well in the 70's but your never to old to learn something new. So there is a Luther Ingram... I know the song very well (the barkays covered it as well). Any realtion to James?
    Hell I just learned this past year who did Bad Mamajama, I had always thought it was Stevie but it was Carl Carlton.
  19. Headroom


    Apr 5, 2002

    Assumes Casey Kasem voice:

    "That would be Leon Sylvers III, formerly of the The Sylvers. Ironically, the bass player on perhaps that group's biggest hit "Boogie Fever" was none other than James Jamerson."

    James also played on one of my favorite early 70's smooth-soul songs: "Show and Tell" by Al Wilson
  20. vanselus


    Sep 20, 2000
    Boulder, CO
    Don't forget the organ gods:

    Jimmy Smith - Root Down
    Jimmy McGriff - Electric Funk

    or more modern, but the same idea:

    Robert Walter's 20th Century Congress - Money Shot

    or on a video game:

    Interstate 76 - Soundtrack

    These are all great examples of greasy funk!

    (love the thread, btw)