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Let's play The Blues Game

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Phil Smith, Jun 1, 2001.


  1. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    Greetings to all that sound one octave lower than notated. I'm not sure this is a original idea, but it's an idea nevertheless, here it goes:

    We start with a standard 12 bar blues progression using all dominant 7 chords, I'm not going to use a specific key and so it will look like so:

    / I7 / I7 / I7/ I7 /

    / IV7 / IV7 / I7 / I7 /

    / V7 / IV7 / I7 / I7 /

    For those not hip to the notation, if this blues were in the key of C:

    / C7 / C7 / C7/ C7 /

    / F7 / F7 / C7 / C7 /

    / G7 / F7 / C7 / C7 /

    The game works like this. Each person that responds to the thread makes a change to one of the chords in the progression and the next person makes a change to a different chord in the new progression until all twelve chords have been altered. Once all twelve have been altered, this process can begin again, one chord at a time. I'll make the first substitution...

    / I7 / IV7 / I7/ I7 /

    / IV7 / IV7 / I7 / I7 /

    / V7 / IV7 / I7 / I7 /

    I changed the second chord from a I7 to a IV7. Remember to change only one chord additonally the resulting progression should still sound good so don't try to just throw any old chord in! All-righty-then let's see how this works...
     
  2. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    Interesting concept, Phil. Here's a start...

    / I7 / IV7 / I7/ I7 /

    / IV7 / IV7 / I7 / I7 /

    / V7 / IV7 / I7 / V7 /


    Tip for all the people who are lazy like me: Just copy and paste the progression, then make your alteration. One more thing: make the altered chord bold so it's easier to see.


    Will
     
  3. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

     
  4. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    Bruce, the rules are that you cannot alter a chord that been previously altered until all 12 have been altered and it starts again.
     
  5. I guess I missed the point I also was going to do what BL did with the II or a VI
     
  6. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    gruffpuppy and Bruce, there 10 bars you can make changes to other than the 2nd and 12th bars that have been altered already.

    Bruce, there's other places to put that iim7 V7 change you know.
     
  7. / I7 / IV7 / I7/ I7 /

    / IV7 / VI / I7 / I7 /

    / V7 / IV7 / I7 /V7

    like this?
     
  8. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    Here ya go-
    /I7---/IV7---/I7---/bV7---/

    /IV7---/vi---/I7---/V7---/

    /V7---/IV7---/I7---/V7---/
     
  9. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    /I7---/IV7---/I7---/bV7---/

    /IV7---/vi---/I7---/V7---/

    /V7-bV7-/IV7---/I7---/V7---/
     
  10. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    Ok, this is starting to get confusing. First VI was major, now it's minor I'm going to assume it's still major.

    / I7 / IV7 / I7 / bV7 /

    / IV7 / VI / II7 / V7 /

    / V7-bV7 / IV7 / I7 / V7 /

    Will
     

  11. Sorry that may have been my fault I was thinking based on a Major scale making my VI a minor.
     
  12. Pacman

    Pacman Layin' Down Time Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 1, 2000
    Omaha, Nebraska
    Endorsing Artist: Roscoe Guitars, DR Strings, Aguilar Amplification
    vi should always be minor, otherwise it's not a vi, it's something else...
     
  13. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    We should for this game, notate the ii, iii, vi and vii in lower case. We should also probably do a quote reply so that the chords that are bold stay bold that way everyone knows which ones have not been altered.

    Here's the current state of the progression:


    / I7 / IV7 / I7 / bV7 /

    / IV7 / vi-7 / ii-7 / V7 /

    / V7 bV7 / IV7 / I7 / V7 /
     
  14. But when do I get my Get out of Jail Free card?
     
  15. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    Okay, here's my change to bar 10.

    / I7 / IV7 / I7 / bV7 /

    / IV7 / vi-7 / ii-7 / V7 /

    / V7 bV7 / iii-7 vii-7b5 / I7 / V7 /

    gruffpuppy you're still in the game. :D
     
  16. / I7 / IV7 / I7 / bV7 /

    / IV7 / vi-7 / ii-7 / V7 /

    / V7 bV7 / iii-7 vii-7b5 / I7 / V7 /


    Ok I guess I just want to make sure that the first chord stays the foundation that we all started with.
    If that is against the rules I can be over ruled
     
  17. Blackbird

    Blackbird Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    California
    Yeah, it's a secondary dominant, V of II. A perfectly acceptable chord in the context of a blues progression.

    what's this I hear about Always? This is blues. no need to be modal.

    And John, if that ain't reason enough, let's just say I used a picardy third. :p;)

    Will
     
  18. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook for Android/iOS
    gruffpuppy, I would say that we leave the first chord alone, except for adding a chord after it i.e.

    /I7 vi-7/ ii-7 V7 /

    If you have a specific reason for changing the first chord to a minor one, let us hear what it is.
     
  19. Whoops sorry Phil I guess I will need that Get out of Jail card, forgot to hit the shift key. I just did a quick edit. I agree the first chord should not be changed. In example I do like the 1/2 step from the root in Stormy Monday though.
     
  20. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    ...everyone's staying away from bar 3, huh?
    It's elementary! ;)

    / I7 / IV7 / bii-7 / bV7 /

    / IV7/ vi-7 / ii-7 / V7 /

    / V7 bV7 / iii-7 vii-7b5 / I7 / V7 /