Lighter alternative to Workingman 12

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by vlado, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. vlado

    vlado

    Mar 14, 2006
    Buje, Croatia
    Hi, folks!
    I'm looking into changing my amp, not because it doesn't sound right (no objection to that), but because I'm sick of carrying it around every day. I've bought it on e-bay 15 years ago and have been using it ever since, and I mean using it every day on various gigs every summer and all winter long for rehearsals. It was already used when I got it and it served me well, ones or twice I gave it to minor repairs. I kept the tweeter off all the time. I'm only saying this in order to describe the sound I need for the new one, meaning "no tweeter necessary". I use it mostly with a guitar-drums-bass trio, going through it to the PA, mostly through DI, but lately I've miked it and it sounds great. Then I stand behind it to have it as a monitor. The stuff we play is a Motown-based repertoire, no heavy stuff, the drummer has a very light touch, so there's no need for anything too loud. For a long time I was thinking that it would make sense to have a separate head and some light-weight box, but now my drummer thinks combos are a better option, being a one piece, and says the new combos have been developed that don't necessarily need to be sturdy and heavy. I've looked into Thomann catalogue and have seen a few options, some of which I haven't yet come across, so, if you have an opinion on Phil Jones or newer Orange amps please share it. Also if anyone has been using Eden Nemesis combos or any other similar... Thank you!
     
  2. jlepre

    jlepre Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Cedar Knolls, NJ
    Your Drummer thinks a combo is a better option?
     
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  3. vlado

    vlado

    Mar 14, 2006
    Buje, Croatia
    Yes, he does, and I do take a very serious notice of what he thinks, 'cause he's the kind of guy that never says anything without giving it a lot of thought and insight!
     
  4. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    The Traynor SB112 "Small Block." I used to have a Workingman 15. The Traynor is more power, more volume, and less weight.
     
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  5. jlepre

    jlepre Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Cedar Knolls, NJ
    Oh I meant no disrespect, but I'm curious as to how he came to that conclusion?
     
  6. vlado

    vlado

    Mar 14, 2006
    Buje, Croatia
    The idea is to make a move towards being even more moveable and light-packing and to keep the sound as good and groovie...
     
  7. CallMeAl

    CallMeAl

    Dec 2, 2016
    Ithaca Ny
    Fender Rumble.
    100: 1x12, 100 watts, 22lbs
    200: 1x15, 140 watts, 34 lbs. (Full 200w with extension cab)
    They have a vintage setting that would make for a nice motown sound.

    I have a 100, was looking at adding a 200 for a while, but I'm just gonna go all in with a 500.
     
  8. vlado

    vlado

    Mar 14, 2006
    Buje, Croatia

    As I'm checking out all the videos with tests this one has popped up at the leading position for the moment. I'm only not sure if I like the idea that the level of output on the speaker is affecting the sent output for PA. But, as I said, along with Eden Ec 10, this one seems to be my favorite choice at the moment.
     
  9. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    Out there!
    If you can get this done, have someone (or, you?) make s new cabinet that matches the existing one but in a lighter weight wood. The WM series are made from MDF/particleboard, which are quite heavy due to that material.
     
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  10. CallMeAl

    CallMeAl

    Dec 2, 2016
    Ithaca Ny
    Yeah, hasn't been a problem for us. We run our own sound and try as best we can to "set it and forget it." But I could see that being a factor.

    Anyways, for tone, price, weight, and simplicity, it checks all my boxes. I've been very happy with mine and plan on buying a second!

    EDIT some info on the Rumble's line out
    Fender Rumble Club Wiki Page | TalkBass.com
     
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  11. nilorius

    nilorius Inactive

    Oct 27, 2016
    Riga - Latvia
    If you are looking on small light amps, Aguilar tonehammers, Hartke tx600.
     
  12. Warpeg

    Warpeg

    Jun 20, 2005
    Ohio
    GK MB112-II.
     
  13. Ian McLaughlin

    Ian McLaughlin

    Aug 11, 2018
    That paragraph is a little heavy, too.

    Please try to get into using line breaks.

    Makes stuff really easy to read.

    Look at GK, Trace Elliot, Aguilar.
     
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  14. farace

    farace

    Jul 9, 2016
    Connecticut USA
    I was going to suggest this as well. I have the MB212-II, which is 500 watts in a 41-lb package and sounds wonderful. I believe the MB112-II is 200 watts and under 30 lbs (and I probably could have gotten away with that rather than the 212).
     
  15. scuzzy

    scuzzy

    Feb 15, 2006
    Troy, MO
    GK MB 112 or 115 are both incredible, light combos.
     
  16. DaveAceofBass

    DaveAceofBass Supporting Member

    Feb 20, 2004
    Charlotte, NC
    Barefaced cab with your head of choice.
     
  17. And I

    And I

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    a separate cab and head is not necessarily heavier and more difficult to transport. but there are some great lightweight combos out there and if that's what you want, don't let your drummer talk you into it, tell him it was your idea to get one!! ;)

    i think the GK MB 112-II would be a good choice.
     
  18. nomaj

    nomaj

    Apr 2, 2012
    GK MB 115 will fit your stated needs perfectly, vlado. Rumble 200 is a very good choice, too.



    And the weight on the MB 115 is manageable, too: 17kg (38lbs)
     
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  19. Yes. Traynor SB112 and Sb115 provide a wonderful quality tone and portability compromise. I love mine. (SB115)
     
  20. shawshank72

    shawshank72

    Mar 22, 2009
    Canada
    Exactly this.