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Lightweight inexpensive power amp?

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by bullyspud, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. bullyspud


    Oct 15, 2011
    paris, france
    Hi all,
    still searching for a lightweight amp solution for my double bass. now I have stumbled upon a Genz Benz STL-10T cab at a good price. I already have a preampli that i like. so if i understand correctly i only need something that can give the power to the cab? can you guys recommend an inexpensive and lightweight power amp that would work? i need to be able to carry it all on my shoulders so that my hands are free for carrying the bass. many thanks
  2. BobKay

    BobKay Supporting Member

    Nov 5, 2012
    Estero, Florida; USA
    With the understanding that "inexpensive and lightweight" are subjective, I really like the new AI Clarus SL one channel amp I recently purchased. Not exactly what you asked for, since it has a pre-amp and power amp, but it is really small and lightweight. Here's a link:
    Acoustic Image Series 4PLUS CLARUS SL and SL-R instrument amplifier at Gollihur Music - Double Bass, Upright Bass, String Bass Specialists

    Some others here have mentioned the ELF. Also very small, but I think with pre-amp also. Sorry if this doesn't help.
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  3. Nathan Levine

    Nathan Levine Supporting Member

    Apr 25, 2008
    Anchorage, AK
  4. Blissful_Lad

    Blissful_Lad Banned

    Feb 22, 2018

    You're in France! Right? Get one of these: GSS Amps

    I use the Baby Sumo to amplify Double Bass with a Wayne Jones WJBPII and MAS 1,8.
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  5. bullyspud


    Oct 15, 2011
    paris, france
    thanks guys for the replies! you've given me lots of possibilities. yes i know inexpensive is relative but i guess i should say - "the cheapest possible!"
    looks like the gss amps could be a good possibility!
  6. james condino

    james condino Spruce dork Supporting Member Commercial User

    Sep 30, 2007
    asheville, nc
    Buy a cheap bottom feeder and you'll likely replace it six or seven times in a lifetime, with a combined price many times more than the most expensive thing on the market today. Buy something well made and high quality and it will provide a lifetime of use and satisfaction for a modest price.
  7. kkenda11

    kkenda11 Supporting Member

    Feb 26, 2005
    I went though the same search and ended up with a Clarus SL. I connect my preamp out (an EDB-2) to the effects return of the Clarus SL and it works great.

    Nothing else I considered (Baby Sumo, etc) was more compact than the Clarus except for the Jay Ganz Straight Ahead amp. The Ganz amp looks really cool (it is tiny, and affordable), but I couldn't get comfortable that it was going to be appropriate for my use case, or as reliable as the AI stuff.

    As a bonus, the preamp stage of Clarus SL is great when I'm not using the EDB-2 to blend inputs, and I could conceivably use it for doubling by plugging an electric bass into the regular input and the EDB-2 into the effects return.
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
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  8. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    Very true, and I would add if possible
    buy it used, from a reliable seller once
    it’s been around for awhile. It’s good to let the new stuff settle in and get some mileage on it to “iron out” any issues.

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  9. jmlee

    jmlee Catgut? Not funny. Supporting Member

    Jun 16, 2005
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    That’s precisely what I do. Heaps of clean power.
  10. bullyspud


    Oct 15, 2011
    paris, france
    unfortunately the clarus is way out of my price range. i totally get what you guys are saying about having something of high quality well built that lasts but its not possible for me right now. it certainly seems that the amps that are made for acoustic instruments, that try to get a nice transparent sound, are a lot more expensive.
    i was impressed when i saw what the french GSS company was making in terms of lightweight and inexpensive but then i see they offer exactly the same products in the categories of electric bass and cello/doublebass.

    maybe its back to the powered speaker search i will go.
  11. Bisounourse


    Jun 21, 2012
    Gent, Belgium
    The Baby Sumo from GSS gets some love in the BG section, and I wouldn't call it 'cheap' at a price of 460 € (~ around 500 US $ ); an GK MB200 new can be had for less...
  12. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    Actually, I’ve used a QSC K8 for clubs and concerts, the issue with most powered speakers is the preamp
    sections don’t have adequate tone shaping for Double Bass. You’ll need a preamp. It makes sense that GSS would market the same amps to bass, electric bass, and cello, as the frequency ranges of those three instruments overlap. Acoustic Image markets their amps to guitar, contrabass, and electric bass, that’s why they put digital effects on them. I wouldn’t think that would preclude using them for Double Bass.
    Just my observation.

  13. Blissful_Lad

    Blissful_Lad Banned

    Feb 22, 2018
    bullyspud, no need to hesitate concerning the GSS amps. Power amps are just that. Your tone shaping is handled by the preamp you already have and like. The power handling of your Genz Benz STL-10T speaker cab is: 200 W @ 8 Ohms.

    The Baby Sumo is an excellent match! Frequency response (-1dB): 20-20000 Hz. 300 Watts at 8 Ohms. Weight: 3.3 Lbs (1,5 Kg).

    All the previous suggestions ignore that you already have a preamp.
  14. I've been using a Behringer NU3000 for a couple of years and it's worked great.
  15. Eric Hochberg

    Eric Hochberg

    Jul 7, 2004
    And the NU1000 is $149 at Sweetwater. 6lbs. May work for the OP's situation. Worth a try at that price.
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  16. bullyspud


    Oct 15, 2011
    paris, france
    thanks guys for all the suggestions! after another metro trip with my bass i think the size and weight are really the factors that will decide it for me. looks like its going to be the gk mb 200 head 2nd hand
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  17. bullyspud


    Oct 15, 2011
    paris, france
    damn, just realised the mb 200 doesnt have an effects loop. i was hoping to use that if i didnt like the GK colouring. that said neither of the gss options have one either. its strange that the small gss amp has the low/mid/treble knobs and the more powerful baby sumo doesnt.
  18. Try to find a used Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0. If there is a -8T or -10T following then it is a combo, but they are not bad either and the Amp is easily removable. And it has an effect loop and a very configurable DI out. 3-band EQ with half-parametric mids (fixed Q, variable frequency).
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  19. bullyspud


    Oct 15, 2011
    paris, france
    Not many of those around my neck of the woods at the moment. Luckily i saw Fdeck's post about flat settings for the mb200, i feel better about it now.
  20. bullyspud


    Oct 15, 2011
    paris, france
    eeekkk i just received my genz benz cab and its not the extension cab with the speakon input but the combo cab with the "pigtail" connector....
    does anyone know if the lineout/chain out output on a gk mb200 head will work with it?

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