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Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by been_effected, Oct 4, 2018.
Excited about the new Stomp XL! Found this recent video...had to share.
Wow that is a small footprint! Agree that it is a little funky looking compared to the normal stomp or the bigger Helix units.
is the Hx Stomp a possible replacement for my Radial Bassbone ? That is to ask, can I have one bass in Left In and another in Right In and assign a footswitch to select either the right or left input and mute the other ?
Yes, you could for sure do that.
Cool. Now I need to sell off some stuff...
I actually replaced a bassbone with the stomp, and if you use the return for the fx loop, you can actually even use it as an a/b/c for switching between 3 inputs! And more.
That i so not helping my budgetary restraint... I will need the efx loop for my synth stuff though...
I have to say that the 3 switch format and limited knobs for on-the-fly adjustment were what forced my hand with the Stomp. The extra switches is a nice addition IMO. Not sure I'd want to pay the new asking price at the moment, but in all honestly, this makes the Stomp format a lot more appealing for those like me who really dislike 3 button format pedals.
Small size was an important objective for me to buy the HX stomp. That's gone with the LX. If there is just five additional foot switches coming with the LX, I wonder what they used the additional empty space inside the LX for. I was hoping for XLR outs and a battery or rechargeable option. A larger display for an old man with bad eyes like me would have been nice too, but well ... may be next time.
Can the stereo efx loop be addressed as two mono loops through configuration or programming via midi ? I see the Y cable ...
Heart of my rig is a C4 and Spectrum and a Future Impact. Having a loop dedicated to Source Audio and another dedicated to the FI might be super cool.
Yes the FX Loop can be used as 2 separate mono loops with a TRS to dual TS cable
I usually go around 150Hz, but I did not invest too much time into research on that. So far it worked, but that really depends on what tone you want. I guess.
I just want to stress that the Compress/Boost in the low end really depends on attack parameters. It can get 'too whomp-y'. But sometimes that's what one likes.
For some patches I have the distortion/OD/etc on before the split, but with the [MIX] of these things set to 50-70%. That way, you have some clean low end in the mix that is send through the low-path after the Crossover-Split. This works especially well with the Obsidian 7000 block (with Distortion on) of the Helix (which is a copy of the Darkglass B7K).
For other patches, I only place distortion/OD/etc in the high-path after the split. I found that this is working very well with fuzz and the like.
Concerning the Helix Stomp XL, maybe the FAQ from Digital Igloo from TGP might be interesting:
Stomp in bound. Also parts to make 2 double footswitches. 1 for the stomp, the other for my Soleman midi controller. This should keep me busy for a while.
Is there a good limiter on the hx stomp ? If so, can I put it on the main outs ?
If you are looking for a "brick wall" limiter, your best bet is going to be the Rochester Comp as it provides ratio settings going all the way up to infinity:1. Also, it is based on the Ashly CLX-52 Compressor/Limiter, which was developed in conjunction with bassist Billy Sheehan. So, you know it has seen bass usage.
The LA Studio Comp has a "Compress/Limit" switch; but, according to the manual for Teletronix LA-2A Leveling Amplifier, this sets the unit to an unspecified "limiting" ratio, which they refer to as ratios of 10:1 or 12:1 and above. The Deluxe Comp and 3-Band Comp models also offer compression ratios in excess of 10:1; but, again, this is not "brick wall" limiting.
Regarding "putting it on the main outs":
You can certainly place the limiter block as the last block in your signal chain; but, you cannot place it after the Output block.
If your intent is to have a block that will limit all presets to a consistent output level, that's a great concept; but, I don't think it will work like that. Because almost blocks in the HX/Helix have "Level" parameters (including the Output block), signal levels throughout the chain are somewhat "relative". The new "Gain Reduction" meters in the bigger units (and Native) are helpful, but not scientific. And, as everyone correctly cautions, output levels ultimately need to be set at performance volumes in order to account for "perceived" loudness.
Yeah, I was hoping to place the limiter on the main outs iem style. Guess I'll be burning a bock in each of the patches I setup- or at least the synth oriented ones. I don't see myself with too many patches though. So probably not a real hardship.
FWIW - I couldn't care less about the meter thing. In my time at FOH, I often set a comp blind, staring at the band hands on threshold and / or makeup...
Stomp arrives Monday so i'm back to reading the manual and watching midi controller vids ;-)
FWIW, I just started using a Disaster Area MIDI Baby 3 and really like it. Set up was a snap with their software/guides/YouTube.
You could utilize the split paths so that the send to in-ears has the limiter and the send to an amp doesn't. But beware you could run into ground noise issues.
Does anyone have any good pointers for getting the bass tone that's used on Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal, on the HX Stomp? It almost sounds like a double bass but not quite...
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