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Line 6 HX Stomp

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by been_effected, Oct 4, 2018.


  1. redstrand

    redstrand

    May 18, 2007
    Saint Louis, MO
    Fool For Four Strings
    That's blaspheme to some folks, you should see some of the shenanigans people are up to in the facebook group. Instead of just getting one long extension cord, they're buying six cord to triple reverse the polarity to make work....smh...keep it simple and it'll just work
     
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  2. Jehos

    Jehos Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2006
    DFW, TX
    I think I found the problem...:roflmao:
     
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  3. redstrand

    redstrand

    May 18, 2007
    Saint Louis, MO
    Fool For Four Strings
    They're great for patch info and some routing problems but wow do they overthink some nonsense
     
  4. cavemanbass

    cavemanbass

    Nov 5, 2010
    Can you describe some of the customization or tinkering that you’ve done to improve the amp sims? I’m considering an hx stomp and wondering if I have the skills to get really great / realistic sounds from it.
    Is there a third party marketplace for buying/ downloading custom amp sims?
     
  5. Jehos

    Jehos Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2006
    DFW, TX
    Line6 does the work on the "realistic" part. There's no black magic or anything, it's just twiddling knobs just like you would if you owned physical copies of all the amps.

    You can't buy amp sims, but you can buy IRs (impulse responses) which are basically some fancy voodoo that makes whatever signal you feed into them sound like they came out of a specific amp/cab/mic combo. They're generated from recordings of actual physical amps and can't be adjusted in any way--they model that one setup with those specific settings and that's it.
     
  6. RadioactiveGuy4

    RadioactiveGuy4 Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2011
    New Orleans
    The goal is to have the least amount of things to set up and plug in. I did look at the power strip option but none would fit under my board or in a way that I could leave it set up and not have to unplug everything to pack it up

    Basically I want to be able to have the power supply for the Stomp and the one spot mounted to my board in a way that I can leave them attached and still have it fit my pedal board case. I think at this point I'm going to have to give up on mounting the power stuff under the pedal board. There is just not enough room under there to fit everything but the Stomp created a lot of room on the top of my board since it eliminated 4 pedal so that is where I'm looking to mount everything next.

    My hug a plug gets here tomorrow. Once I get everything set up I will take a pic so you all can see.
     
  7. Lakshaya Grover

    Lakshaya Grover

    Mar 10, 2018
    I'm still confused about selling my darkglass b7k and my darkglass supersymmetry to buy the hx stomp as my full all in one rig.
    Should I do it?
    Also, how is the audio interface in the stomp?
    Any clipping issues?
     
  8. RadioactiveGuy4

    RadioactiveGuy4 Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2011
    New Orleans
    So the Stomp does have a distortion based on the B7k. I don't own a b7k to compare it to but the sim in the stomp sounds good to me. I have a Darkglass X that I decided to keep as my go to OD that I run in the Stomps effects loop. The Stomp also has several compressors but none that are based on the Supersymmetry. I think the on board compressors do a good job but they are nothing super special. If you want to keep your Darkglass gear you can always run it into the effects loop of the stomp.

    I have had my stomp for about a week and I have only messed with the AI once to see if it worked and it does. I didn't have any issues with clipping but I'm sure someone who has had more recording experience with the stomp can chime in.
     
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  9. GtenderG

    GtenderG

    Feb 29, 2008
    Is it possible to use a Boss FS-5U foot switch to toggle between Snapshots?
     
  10. Jehos

    Jehos Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2006
    DFW, TX
    I don't remember if there's a "next snapshot" assignment for the footswitches. I have a Boss FS-7 and I was playing around with it last night and found it's useless for "Next Preset" and "Previous Preset"--it acts like you're holding down a switch even though it's set on momentary. It just scrolls really fast. However, "Action >" and "< Action" are options for a footswitch assignment and that's a better use IMO. That toggles the main footswitches on the Stomp to be stompbox switches, presets, banks, snapshots, etc. You can tap that a couple times to get into Snapshot mode, then all 3 of the Stomp's footswitches let you jump directly to a Snapshot. Then tap the Boss a couple more times to get back to stompbox mode. That's how I'm using my FS-7--the top button is "Action >", the bottom button is "Tap/Tuner". That frees up the three main switches to be three stompbox switches.
     
  11. RadioactiveGuy4

    RadioactiveGuy4 Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2011
    New Orleans
    Welp here is my power solution!
    70B5D85F-30BF-495D-9B6F-A64680AF58C9.

    Everything is mounted to the board so all I have to do is plug in my extension cord and I’m good to go! I wish I could all go under the board but overall I’m happy.

    Here is another view
    D5B281DE-5E72-43BF-A903-4C41042A01C5.
     
  12. Jehos

    Jehos Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2006
    DFW, TX
    I know there's a lot of stuff out there about powering the HX Stomp with pedalboard power supplies. I wanted to pass along a configuration I haven't seen before that I am using and can confirm works.

    My power supply is a Strymon Zuma R300:
    Zuma R300 - Ultra Low Profile DC Pedal Power Supply - Strymon

    For any power supply, you need to use a current doubler (not a voltage doubler). This lets you combine the output of two jacks on the power supply. I'm using the one from Voodoo Labs:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FNY74V6/

    The HX Stomp uses a 5.5mm outer diameter, 2.5mm inner diameter barrel plug, negative center. Most pedals use a 5.5/2.1mm barrel plug, negative center. Line 6 used a weird plug on purpose, so you wouldn't try to hook up a regular old 9V 500mA power supply and get cranky because it didn't work. Most pedals that use the 2.5mm plug are positive center, not negative center, so most conversion cables flip the polarity. The HX Stomp uses negative center, so people have been buying an adapter cable *and* a polarity flipping cable to get from 2.1mm to 2.5mm with negative polarity. I found a cable that doesn't require that--both ends can be plugged into either a 2.1mm or 2.5mm jack because the center is spring-loaded:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077Z129SV

    It works like a charm. You can go straight from the current doubler into the HX Stomp with the polarity correct and no extra adapter needed.
     
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  13. megarat

    megarat (Not My Real Name) Supporting Member

    Nov 12, 2013
    Squirt Island, USA
    I agree with @Jehos in that I don't believe this can be done with standard external footswitches. However, it can be done with MIDI, and I do this myself with a Disaster Area DMC.micro. It works great.

    EDIT: I consulted the manual just now, and it appears that a standard footswitch can do this, by using either the "snapshot up" or "snapshot down" function. See page 42.
     
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  14. mc900ftj

    mc900ftj

    Jan 21, 2014
    Yes. You can assign an external switch as Snapshot Up (or down) and it will cycle through them.
     
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  15. JES

    JES Supporting Member

    Just picked up the stomp after fooling around with the Helix Native long enough to know I'd like the effects and amps. I updated to the latest firmware, 2.71.

    Edit: I’m thinking a Boss FS-6u for an extra two switches, and a Line 6 Reflex over MIDI for expression but if people have better ideas, I’d love to hear them.

    I've got to dig through this thread, but in the meantime, if people have favourite fuzz or heavy overdrive settings, I'd love to know them. Ditto for reverb. I've been using the dual tank with low and high cuts and that's pretty nice.

    I want to try and replicate the sound of the following pedals:

    Xotic BB Bass Overdrive (Teemah seems closer than the 808 stomp)
    Idiot Box Blower Box (seems like the Rat isn't very close)
    VFE Woodchipper or Malekko Bassmaster

    I'm also messing around with trying to get the classic "shimmer" reverb and Eventide-style pitched delays and don't have much luck. The pitch shifter appears to be in the feedback loop of the delay so it constantly goes up in pitch. I can put together a more complicated patch (pitched delay with no feedback, followed by not-pitched delay) but is there an easier way to do this?

    TIA!
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2019
  16. JES

    JES Supporting Member

    Okay, so I see you can actually do a lot with an expression pedal, including choosing to use it as a switch in a patch. So am I better off with one switch and one expression pedal?
     
  17. nervous

    nervous Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2010
    Beautiful Central, NY
    I was an advocate for this Boss pedals early on, partially because I already owned one and second because of their size and reliability. They also have enough weight too sit where you put them on a floor if you're not securing things to a pedalboard, which I did not. That said I may be the only one here using them as most other folks are option fro much smaller footprint versions of a single box, two button device from a variety of folks. For me I prefer a bit larger target. To each their own and simply all a preference thing for sure.
     
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  18. husky123

    husky123 Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 6, 2006
    Leesburg, VA
    Product Development Specialist for Bergantino Audio Systems
    Hey guys, dumb question probably but I’m only planning on using the Stomp in front of my amp for various stomp effects. 90% of the time, I’ll probably have it bypassed. Is there a way other than pushing the upper and lower knob simultaneously to quickly get the HX Stomp in and out of bypass mode?
     
  19. hbabels

    hbabels Supporting Member

    Jul 26, 2015
    Phoenix, AZ
    You can assign one of the foot switches as bypass of the whole unit.

    Speaking of foot switches I’ve had success with this : Saturnworks Black Double Momentary AUX Switch w/ Soft Touch + Switchcraft Jack - Replaces Boss FS-6
    Saturnworks Black Double Momentary AUX Switch w/ Soft Touch + Switchcraft Jack - Replaces Boss FS-6

    Ordered as the “Normally Open “ Version.
     
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  20. lemueldave

    lemueldave

    May 10, 2016
    You can always send a MIDI CC signal through a midi foot controller, there's one for bypass.
     
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