Line 6 StageScape system

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by Bredian, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    New band for me with exiting bass player leaving with most of PA. We gigged last week with part of new Line 6 PA as its still arriving. First gig was mixer and mains, using our old amp out to old monitors to be replaced later with their powered monitors.

    Significantly simpler set up and tear down. Ipad controlled with graphic screen references. Very cuickly got mix under control and any feedback issues solved. Monitors were not perfect as we played one short in a very small stage, I could hear myself except when more than 2 people singing.

    30 minute band teardown - a record for them, but my previous band using a newer Carvin powered PA could do the same as its also simple.

    Subs arrived yesterday.... more gigs on 12-27 and 12-31 -
  2. Thornton Davis

    Thornton Davis

    Dec 11, 1999
    We've been using StageSource L3T's and L3S's for the past 2 years along with Line 6's M20d mixer. We use no amps on stage and our drums are a set of Roland electronic drums. Everything runs through the board via individual DI's. Originally we used L2T's for floor monitors but after 6 months we eliminated them and went to IEM's. Great system, easy setup and teardown. We made a bracket on the L3t's so we can mount our lighting system on top of them on both sides of the stage. We also each use the StageScape iPad app for our individual mixes on our iPads which are also running Set List Maker.

    One note, is if you live in a cold climate, do NOT leave the L3S's out in the cold when they're not being used. They must be kept in a warm environment. Last year we had left ours in the unheated garage and when we took them to the gig both of the power modules blew rendering them inoperable. Seems that condensation will build up on the power module once they're brought into a warm environment from the cold. The power modules had to be replaced (under warranty).

    Last edited: Dec 20, 2014
  3. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    By the 3rd gig, this set up is sounding pretty sweet. We've had the subs for 2 gigs and a few rehearsals. 3rd gig we had line 6 monitors available also.
  4. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    4th gig with the system 1/10 - bar instructions were "no setup before 7 pm (9pm start) and we were tapping our toes by 7:45 ready for sound check and start.... even as I was 20 minutes late to set up. The PA has some kind of auto set up for each room. Awesome. Gig tonight.
  5. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    Noticing last night mid gig I'm getting a crunchy sound through the monitor and discuss with BL. He turns off the bass feeding through my monitor and it stops. ... The boominess also went away that I couldn't adjust out of my rig... we will be discussing the eq settings and any presets for the bass....
  6. Zephrant


    Dec 10, 2013
    Spokane, WA
    Thanks for the reports. I've been interested in them for some time, but am not resdy to commit yet.
  7. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    When its perfect, its perfect. BUT having some issues with cables in speakers. (it uses mic cables into powered speakers for all mains, monitors, subs). Saturday night was a ongoing issue until we taped the cable connection into place. Now going through, numbering, ordering new cables that meet spec for each of 10 outputs. Previous gig at the same venue one of our power plugs was falling out of the wall (bad recepticle) THEN we'll see.... that was gig 8 with the system.

    Coincidentally, there was another new high end PA there from a similar brand with the brand rep present, small mixer with a screen similar to the Line 6, powered speakers..... clear as a bell but was also experiencing some cut out with a distant powered main.... likely a cable issue also.

    We'll have eight gigs over the next 11 weeks.... our typical max booking, so this will get figured out or replaced.

    Meanwhile, I brought my Carvin BX1500 head to my first gig.... which has a great DI (direct out) feed.
  8. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Retired Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    I've been running powered mains and monitors for years and never had the cabling issues you describe. I recommend using only cables with Neutrik XLR connectors and no other brand. I make my own using Mogami Neglex Quad or Canare Star Quad cable. Some of the cheaper commercial cables are complete junk and fail often.
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  9. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    The system likes the mains and monitors powered up before connecting them to the board.... recognition.
  10. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    Had to pull my rig out of the mixer last week due to a very low hum.... isolated to the amp (after disconnecting the instrument cable) keys had a similar issue, but no rig.... we're thinking its a light or fan somewhere. Plenty of power and sound, but the subs would have been nice.
  11. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    Singer has been complaining about her voice reproduction in FOH for months... finally fixed.... changed the preset from female singer to guy singer..... really much clearer... the preset must have been overcompensating for "whiny" The rest of the night we made "dude" references.
  12. modulusman

    modulusman Inactive

    Jan 18, 2004
    If the stage scape is anything like the Presonus mixers then the pre sets should just be used as a starting point. Nobody sings exactly the same so you need to tweak them a little bit.
  13. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    I'm still looking for a preset or adjustment to one that doesn't kill off the tone, and the highs.... I may just reset my bass as "keys"

    Yes, familiar with the Presonus, a few of their presets, etc. Their initial bass preset is typical 60s with year old flatwounds Precision with the foam still present in the bridge cover.... ugh.
  14. Bredian


    Apr 22, 2011
    We just performed our first gig with a different member controlling the mix, as our previous BL moved to Nashville for work, and a lower cost of living.

    While we spent a lot of time chasing a couple of feedback issues prior to performance time, we realized it was 1. a new drum mike that hadn't been run through the system before and 2. a harmonizer with the trim tab maxed. Because the place was full of dinner guests, we went ahead and started without a sound check, near flawlessly as we had saved settings from a previous gig.

    Its starting to grow on me.
  15. Droopy_TX


    Jul 17, 2016
    Just curious:
    In the 3 years since you started this thread, how has Line 6 support been for the product?

    I heard tell, after buying the Line 6 company, that Yamaha has been orphaning the StageSource line in deference to Yamaha's TF-series of digital mixers.
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