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Looking for a 5-string J. KSD Proto vs Sire V7 5STR

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by SpasticTastic, Mar 26, 2018.


  1. SpasticTastic

    SpasticTastic

    Dec 22, 2012
    Louisiana
    So I'm possibly considering a 5-string J bass. Need more of that extended growl in my life. I was considering these J's because they seem to be right up my alley.

    One of the main contenders is the KSD Proto-J. Korean-made, used at around $400 - $600. Hear a lot of good things about it. Commonly found with maple fretboards, which I looove. Only problem is they're a bit hard to find in the color I want, and it's only a 2-band EQ. Easy fix, though. I hear the on-board EQ is meh and needs to be replaced anyway. Judging by videos, though, the low B sounds nice and defined.

    Then there's the Sire. Everyone here seems to really love Sire. :D And honestly it seems very feature-packed. 3-band EQ, really great build quality. And easier to get in the colors you want. Only problem is, for some reason, a maple board is $100 more than the standard V7 5Str. And people seem to love how bright and lively these sound, but it does have a shorter scale length, so I wonder if that'll kinda give it a slight disadvantage to the KSD in terms of the B-string's definition?

    Basically I just wanna know which bass would be better for what I want. A bright, growly, tight grinding J-bass sound that can handle grit without being too muddled out, especially on the low B. Not like... extreme distorted grind, but something ala Geddy Lee and Chris Squire.
     
  2. SpasticTastic

    SpasticTastic

    Dec 22, 2012
    Louisiana
    I know these VS threads aren't popular, but it would be pretty sweet to get a hand.

    I know it's high quality J vs high quality J, so either one should do what I want. Heck, I can mod the KSD for a better preamp and basically get something similar to the Sire. But I'm curious if the overall package is worth it? I'm also still curious at how well either one handles their low B.
     
  3. SpasticTastic

    SpasticTastic

    Dec 22, 2012
    Louisiana
    I'll give this one more shot. If not, I'll look into making a new thread.
     
  4. wizard65

    wizard65

    Sep 1, 2014
    If you want growl, go for a Warwick.
    The Sires sound pretty good, but not a lot of growl.
     
  5. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    It's the ash body that the $100 extra is for, not the maple board. FWIW. Can't help with your choice - love my Sires, never tried a KSD to compare with.
     
  6. SpasticTastic

    SpasticTastic

    Dec 22, 2012
    Louisiana
    Aaah I see. Shame, I'd like to see them do a standard V7 alder with a maple board. The white or red bass with maple is absolutely killer looking.

    And after reading more about KSD, I think I'll pass on it. They seem really hit or miss. Lots of modding needed to get them up to par.

    I'm still curious about how clear the B is on the Sires. I honestly yet to see a video of anyone really showing off the low B on the V-series basses.
     
  7. MobileHolmes

    MobileHolmes I used to be BassoP

    Nov 4, 2006
    Iowa
    Those KSDs dont' seem real common around here, whereas there are lots of Sires.

    If your main hang up is the pre, There are lots of J style preamps out there, and installation is pretty easy. I have an audere in my J type and it's great. I didn't install it myself, but my recollection is that you didn't even need to solder anything. Jretro or Sadwosky would be pretty similar installs.

    Personally, I don't think 34 scale is a deal breaker on a 5 string, but if 35 is important to you, you can switch the pre in the KSD, you can't change the scale on the Sire.
     
  8. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I don't do videos, but I've posted several soundclips featuring the B in the Sire club thread, I'll see if I can find the posts again...

    Edit: forget finding it again, here it is uploaded to Soundcloud:

    This is with a DR DDT .145 for the B string. Fingerstyle, I think active mode, set almost flat, balance slightly to the neck pu.
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2018
  9. SpasticTastic

    SpasticTastic

    Dec 22, 2012
    Louisiana
    Yeah the more I think about it, the more I can overlook the scale length since I don't really plan on going lower than B for this bass. Just plan on keeping it in standard. It's why I may just go with the Sire. I just did quite a bit of searching on KSD and seeing all the hit-or-miss stories kinda turned me off.
     
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  10. MobileHolmes

    MobileHolmes I used to be BassoP

    Nov 4, 2006
    Iowa
    You piqued my curiousity, and it looked like there hasn't been a KSD in the classifieds in like 6 months. They just don't seem that popular.
     
  11. SpasticTastic

    SpasticTastic

    Dec 22, 2012
    Louisiana
    There's a few on Reverb. Unfortunately not the one I'm looking for. I'm looking for the 705, which seems to be much rarer than the 605.

    But anyways, I'll stick with the Sire. Unless I can find something like a used Schecter Diamond J5 for a great price. I'm afraid I'll have to put waaay too much work and money into the KSD and still won't have something as quality as a Sire or Schecter.

    EDIT: Although I'm eyeing a Tribute L2500 now. :lol:
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2018

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