Looking for a Head with SansAmp sound

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Lowend65, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Lowend65


    Sep 21, 2006
    San Jose, CA
    I'm starting to consider a new head for my stage rig. My Carvin 1600 is showing age, and frankly I've never been overwhelmed with the tone. I'm looking a Class D amps in the $1000 range.
    I adore the tone of my Tech 21 SansAmp plugged into pretty much anything. For the new head, I'd like to get the SansAmp tone, without having to run a separate box.
    Tech21 has their own heads, but they seem really focused on a distortion channel, which doesn't interest me at all. Also the Tech21 heads won't support my 2.67 ohm cabinet load (fEarless 12/6/1 (8 ohm), Avatar 12/1 (4 ohm).

    Can anyone recommend me a head that will have a clean SansAmp style sound?

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    Last edited: Jun 20, 2019
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  2. _Some Dude

    _Some Dude

    Sep 14, 2016
    Ampeg SVT

    Or, just plug the SansAmp into pretty much anything. You already know what you like...Why make it harder than it needs to be?
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  3. mcrawfordmusic


    Dec 11, 2010
    What about buying an RBI and a lightweight power amp for a rack setup?
  4. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Square peg round hole.

    You can get cabs anywhere. If you want that sound, get the Tech 21. It's literally the same sound. Then get cabs to work around 4 ohms. As for distortion, just don't crank the gain.
  5. Spent


    May 15, 2011
    Upstate NY
    For years I used a Crown class d amp, very light and powerful, with a variety of preamps. It’s a cheaper alternative to buying a new amp every few months (I have serious GAS). IMHO, the power amp should not effect the sound, that’s the job of the preamp.
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  6. BogeyBass

    BogeyBass Inactive

    Sep 14, 2010
    Why Class D
    There is a few but not many that do 2 ohms
    SansAmp clean not much different than zillion other amps with 3 band tone control. Mid shift at 500 or 1000 more guitar mid.
  7. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Commercial User

    Feb 20, 2009
    yep, "any ol' power amp" is the right answer.

    for me it's a QSC PLX 3002, not too heavy and one side of it ([email protected]Ω, fully 2Ω capable) is all the power i'd ever need. my BDDI into that pushing a couple of 15 cabs sounds like rock and roll.
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  8. Tech21 make VT bass amps of 500w. Quite likely others as well.
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  9. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Retired Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Mesa and Bergantino do 2 ohms.
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  10. I know you don't want to run separates, but what about your Sansamp plugged into a Quilter BB800? It is stable to 2 ohms.
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  11. PullThePlug


    Jan 8, 2014
    Came here just to say this.

    The Quilter is such a transparent amp. I plug my Tech 21 DP-3x into it, and it's a MONSTER.
    Same with my Sansamp Bass Driver DI, and the Tech 21 Bass Fly Rig.

    You will not be disappointed by the Quilter BB800. It has an absurd amount of clean power.
  12. Sansamp RBI into a power amp that suits your needs is the best answer. I tried quoting it but my phones being fickle. The RBI is just like the pedal but sounds better. I have both and use both regularly. I am not a fan of the RPM though. You can buy both and run them like a 2 channel amp. I got rid of the RPM because I couldn’t use it for anything.
  13. Ian McLaughlin

    Ian McLaughlin

    Aug 11, 2018
    Get a Tech 21 head and sell the Avatar
    Get a Tech 21 head, sell the fEARless and get another 8Ω cab

    I'd think the distortion is just one of many tricks those heads have.
  14. tedious1


    Feb 14, 2014
    Yup, any Power Amp will do, if you're looking at class D though, you might want to consider getting one with a DSP.
  15. I should read the whole thing more often.

    You want the cake AND the pie don't you!

    It's what you get for messing with the devil (4 ohm cabs that aren't enough by themselves).

    You have to choose what is most important. All the options have been given already.

    The Quilter is not rated for less than 4 ohms but you supposedly can so long as it doesn't shut down or some such doublespeak from manufacturer. Yeah, nah.

    Of micro's that are real 2 ohm you have dual channel Shuttles and Mesa that I know of. The Shuttle should play your Samsamp as expected. Dunno about the Mesa.

    Cab swap otherwise.
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  16. jeff7bass

    jeff7bass Inactive

    Apr 9, 2009
    Can you post a pic of your settings on the Carvin? I have the BX-1200 and it's a monster but it took the right tweeking of the semi-parametric EQ.
  17. bass151


    Mar 10, 2012
    The Quilter 800 is 2 ohm stable?
  18. Lowend65


    Sep 21, 2006
    San Jose, CA
    I can get a decent sound out of the Carvin. The amp has started picking up noise, I've already done the cable cleaning trick with no luck. Don't really want to put any money into it.
    I like the Class D amps, well, simply because the older I get the less I want to carry around. Not wanting to run a SansAmp with an external amp is a manifestation of that.

    The Quilter isn't stable to 2 ohms according to specs, not an option.

    I've played through the Mesa 800 and was pretty impressed. That might be my huckleberry
    The Power amp with an RBI - interesting... doesn't save me weight, but interesting
  19. Only up to an undefined power level and no warranty afaik. See the big thread a month or three back.