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Looking for a new head and have narrowed the field.... Kind of.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Blair101, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. Blair101


    Nov 14, 2012
    I have searched high and low for my budget and I have narrowed down to a few, but I still can't decide. I'm currently using my old Trace Elliot AH200S and the power is just not there. Don't really want to lug an SVT around either. The band I've been writing with has two guitarist running 100w tube heads and even at low volume writing sessions the Trace is getting lost. So here is my short list and I'll be running one of these poor, unfortunate little guys through a GK NEO412. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
    TC Electronic BH500
    MB500 Fusion
    Hartke LH1000
    The most function, tone and power for $700
  2. wcriley


    Apr 5, 2010
    Western PA
    I paid $700 (new) for a Genz Benz ShuttleMax 9.2
  3. Blair101


    Nov 14, 2012
    I'll have to check that out.
  4. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    I'd go for the MB800
  5. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    I'd be looking for a used Mesa M9 Carbine. That'll show them gui****s what's up.
  6. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    I have been using an LH1000 for about 3-4 years now. Had to return it for one warranty repair, (Hartke covered everything).

    More than enough power and I have it in a rack case.

    Just replace the pre-amp tube every 6 months.
  7. Blair101


    Nov 14, 2012
  8. Honkycat


    Sep 18, 2012
    I would go for used gear....GK and GB would both cut through the two guitar players.Also a used Eden Navigator has a distictive tone.For $700 you should be anle to get something really decent.
  9. Mehve


    Jun 2, 2012
    Kitchener, ON
    Not that more power would hurt, but make sure you're not notching your EQ too much, which is one of the fastest way to get lost in the mix, no matter how much power you're packing.

    Used is a fast way to knock up to 1/3 of the price of even a nearly new unit. Many companies even allow their warranties to transfer over under the right circumstances. Might be worth considering.
  10. Primakurtz

    Primakurtz Registered Nihilist Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2011
    Denver, Colorado
    Trace Elliott 600 watter

    Many others, I'm sure, but if you like your current tone, one of these might work for you.
  11. Sav'nBass

    Sav'nBass What the .............. Supporting Member

    Jan 18, 2009
    Northern Va.
    Mmmmm hmmm ;)
  12. Blair101


    Nov 14, 2012
    Played through a BH500 last night, nice amp. The Spectra Comp an Tweeter Tone are some nice features, however I thought the Tube Tone was a little gimmicky. The Contour switch adds a nice Trace Elliot like pre-shape tone. Great amp for the price, but it is not quite what I'm looking for. P. S. I don't think any bass amp should have RCA jacks
  13. lomo

    lomo passionate hack Supporting Member

    Apr 15, 2006
    You won't beat the LH1000 for price/power ratio, but it has very limited eq and it's heavy compared to some of the competition (if that matters to you). Email RMC Audio for an MB800 price-they have the best GK prices IME. I bet that head can be had for under 600, and it's a beast that fits in a gigbag pocket.
  14. Bassmec


    May 9, 2008
    Ipswich UK
    Proprietor Springvale Studios
    If there is nothing wrong with the Trace Elliot pre amp line out socket. why not just get one of these cheap modern lightweight power amps like a peavy IPR to beef it up to imminent destruction levels of your GK 4x12.
    You can simply not connect anything to the speaker outputs of your Trace Elliot. It's open circuit protected.:hyper:
    You could even rack it and lighten it further by finding a SMPS power supply for The Trace pre amp. And unbolt the power amp and original heavy transformer and sell them for spares.:cool:
    Shame the GK Cab is only 4ohms as you could have done just as well or better by just getting another 4 x 12 but you can't cos you are already at minimum ohms for the Trace Elliot amp.:bawl:
  15. FanOfAlice


    Nov 8, 2006
    I run a mb fusion through a gk neo412. I absolutely love it!!!

    I play modern rock with a epi pro tbird, sterling ray 34, and spector euro4. I sometimes run an mxr di+ in front of it, but love going straight in as well. Plays well with effects.

    The foot switchable boost feature, when dialed in right, is very tasty.
  16. Blair101


    Nov 14, 2012
    I've thought about doing that as well.
  17. SJan3

    SJan3 Supporting Member

    Dec 8, 2010
    Your personal list is stacked with GK.
    That's what you want. MB800 is an animal!
  18. mam1862

    mam1862 Supporting Member

    Nov 10, 2008
    Northfield, Ohio
    MB Fusion gets my vote.
  19. chaosMK


    May 26, 2005
    Albuquerque, NM
    Hi-fi into an old tube amp
    Even without a super powerful head you should be able to get a lot out of the 4x12 cab. Try cutting low lows (40-80Hz) and boosting low mids (100-250Hz), a dash of boost around 500-600Hz.... then raise your Master a little. Take off any features on the amp that scoop your sound. If your pre can overdrive, use a little. This is a good way to get more present when dealing with guitarists.
  20. Blair101


    Nov 14, 2012
    I have decided to go with the MB800 and if I can ever find the eBay deal in the future, I'll add the Shuttlemax 9.2. And the Trace will go back to my house for some much needed rest on a 1x15 cab for practice. Thanks so much for all the input, I would have never discovered the Shuttlemax without you guys.