Looking for small-ish DI with EQ

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by scotch, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    I'm on the search for a new DI.

    Here's what I need:

    -xlr output with line level/hot output capability (not mic level)
    -At least 2-band Bass/Treble eq
    -1/4" parallel, unity-gain unaffected output (no eq, just pass the input signal)
    -dc adapter or battery (phantom not necessary)
    -great sound! (obviously)

    What I've already tried and wasn't satisfied with for various reasons:

    - SansAmp BDDI
    - MXR M-80
    - DHA DI-EQ (was perfect, but keeps breaking)
    - Radial Bassbone (great, but too many features/too large)

    What I don't want:

    - Multi effects or 'modeler' with xlr out
    - 2 units to accomplish my goal

    I'm leaning towards a Fishman Platinum Bass DI & also attempting to mod an Aguilar Tone Hammer to have an unaffected 1'4" out (maybe replace the output with a 'home-run' from the input jack? is it possible?). Any other candidates?

    Many thanks, TB brethren!
     
  2. georgestrings

    georgestrings Inactive

    Nov 5, 2005
    I'm not a fan of the BDDI, either - the Paradriver and Acoustic are much better, IMO...


    - georgestrings
     
  3. TonyP-

    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Boston Mass
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  4. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    It does look amazing! And gigantic! ;)

    If I were to plan a pedalboard system around it, the Basswitch might be a contender. But, I'm looking for something small-ish that can sit on an amp, in a gig bag pocket, etc...

    No doubt, it sounds great though!
     
  5. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    i might need to try a ParaDriver. I'm worried it will have the same 'fizzy' top end that the BDDI has. And, I don't need any overdrive from it. ?
     
  6. caeman

    caeman The Root Master

    Sep 17, 2008
    Ohio
    Behringer adi21
     
  7. Lo-E

    Lo-E

    Dec 19, 2009
    Brooklyn, NY
    L.R. Baggs Para-Acoustic DI?

    It's really made for piezos, but works fine with mag p'ups.
     
  8. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    Is there an unaffected out? Do you know if the "effects send" is pre eq/gain?
     
  9. caeman

    caeman The Root Master

    Sep 17, 2008
    Ohio
    Fishman Bass Pro EQ might also fit the OP's requirements
     
  10. caeman

    caeman The Root Master

    Sep 17, 2008
    Ohio
    I bet Max at [sfx] could build you exactly what you want.
     
  11. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    I may go that route.. Worried about the lead time though.
     
  12. caeman

    caeman The Root Master

    Sep 17, 2008
    Ohio
    Yes, you might be looking at a 6-week wait, but you would end up with EXACTLY what you need and have your problem solved for the long-term.

    I know that "not two pedals" was listed, but in theory, a small EQ pedal could be stacked on top of a passive DI box to accomplish the task until a custom is done. ie, the MXR 6-band is roughly the same size as a Behringer UltraDI400. Or, maybe stack a Source Audio Programmable EQ on top of a DI.
     
  13. mmbongo

    mmbongo I have too many basses. Supporting Member

    Hartke Bass Attack. It's the DI I use, it's awesome. I love it. Good luck finding something better for the price!

    I'm not sure about the parallel output, I just use mine to connect a tuner. I'm not sure if it is a simple bypassed output or not.
    edit:according to the manual, it's parallel to the input. So whatever you input, it will output. Sounds like this will work for you.

    Hartke VXL Bass Attack | Sweetwater.com
     
  14. behndy

    behndy Inactive

    Nov 1, 2008
    California
    Tronographic Rusty Box? i ****ing LOVE mine. i use it more as a preamp, but it can do clean too. and it has an unbalanced 1/4 out that you can get a 1/4 to XLR cable and use it as a DI.

    mebbe more coloring than what you're looking for, but it DOES have a super responsive eq section.
     
  15. ulynch

    ulynch

    Nov 8, 2010
    Nor Cal
    +1

    And yes, the parallel out is uneffected ("unaffected"?). It's "un" anyway. As in clean. The XLR DI can be set pre- or post-effects (EQ, OD, contour), is balanced, and mic-level. The 1/4 out is line level according to the manual. Even so, I've had no problem running it into the instrument level input on my amp. Phantom power capable, battery, or Boss-style 9v. I'm sure there are better out there, but the VXL is a very nice unit on a budget.
     
  16. Lync

    Lync Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2004
    NY
    +2
     
  17. Lo-E

    Lo-E

    Dec 19, 2009
    Brooklyn, NY
    Yes. From the manual:

    M. Effects loop: This jack provides a send-return on a stereo jack for outboard effects that allow you to blend reverb, chorus or other effects in
    with a dry signal. Use an insert cable (stereo plug with a Y cable to two mono plugs) to connect the effect. The tip is the "send" and goes to the
    input of your effect. The ring is the "return" and comes from the output of your effect, and the sleeve is the ground. You may adjust the amount of
    effect in the signal by using the controls of the outboard effect. The send (tip) of this connector comes directly from the pure class A discrete
    input stage of the Para D.I., before the EQ, volume control, invert switch and output driver. Therefore it can be used as an immaculate, unbalanced
    direct output. It will not be affected by any of the panel controls (with the exception of the gain control). Use a regular mono cable. The effects
    loop interrupts the signal path. Therefore, it may also be used as an insert point for a compressor, volume pedal, or tuner if the tuner has a bypass
    switch.
     
  18. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    RustyBox, probly not. Really want an xlr on there! Engineers are gonna laugh at a pig-tail adapter! ;)

    Forgot about the Hartke. Might have to try it. Used to have a Hartke 3500 head that served me well. The eq layout isn't instantly obvious to me- is the mid control a sweepable cut-only? Don't need the tube amp emulation... but still, it seems to be an option!

    Baggs DI - I know where I can borrow one. I've used it on acoustic guitar before & it's pretty good!




    I did pick up the Fishman Platinum Bass DI today. Honestly, I was planning on using it as a dedicated DI for my U-Basses. But, it's sounding pretty great with my pedalboard rig straight into ProTools.

    Still would like to try the Hartke, Baggs and ToneHammer (if it's mod-able).
     
  19. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    Thanks for all the suggestions folks! Keep 'em coming!
     
  20. scotch

    scotch It's not rocket science!

    Nov 12, 2006
    Albany, NY USA
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    I really like the idea of a custom built solution! Definitely hesitant to wait 6 weeks & (possibly) find I don't like the sound. Hmmm...
    Gonna be in the UK in a couple weeks for a couple shows. Need to find out where SFX is & where I'm gonna be!