I eventually plan on having a nice set of tools at my toes. so! I am thinking I'll be able to have: Bass>Bassballs>Digital amp> Effects Loop> Tonehammer>Fuzz/Drive>OC-2>Bass Microsynth>slicer>mod pedal(s)>delay>sampler So I guess I'm looking for some modulation...or 2 mods for oscillator interplay (stereo?) and a nice sounding delay with expression pedal controls a la Line 6 DL4 (didn't like how bass didn't punch through but loved what I could do with it) How does the MM4 sound? How do the boss twin delay pedals perform soundwise? Is there anything the gigadelay or space echo don't have that the DL4 has or vice versa? If I use delay on bass it needs to be reliable and if I have a sampler it needs to translate punch when mixed into the dry signal. I used to have to pump my mix higher than I wanted to. Would the RC-20 do it for me? I have midi capability to store patches on my amp...yamaha BBT500. i like the way it performs for me but haven't been able to really use its many features. I'm looking for a chain that doesn't suck tone out of my signal and can give me the options I need for everything I like to play, but would leave me with a couple of great tools for gigs that don't warrant. I like my clean tone but really miss taking sections to mars. Am I asking for too much? I plan on having a passive bass and thought the ToneHammer would bring me the tone of an ob-3 with some added drive. As far as my next couple of additions, they would be an octave pedal, bassballs, and a delay pedal. Any sound advice?