Hey guys! I've been amp shopping, and can't quite make up my mind on which Genz cab to pick up. Paired with a GBE1200, which single cab will offer the most volume? Please keep in mind that their 6x10 and 8x10 cabs are out of the question, I have to be able to fit the cab into my Toyota Yaris for gigs Up to now, I've used a couple old Carvin Redline cabs, a 2x10 and a 115. I have never gotten enough volume from them. My primary gig is an extreme metal band, so I have to compete with a massively distorted guitarist and a drummer who does cymbal smashes with enough force to fell a water buffalo. With the gain and preamp volumes down below 33%, if I turned master volume up to 50% those cabs would distort completely. I actually blew the 115 up last weekend. Hence the reason I'm shopping. Right now I'm split between an NX212-T and an Uber410. Is there that much difference between the two, loudness-wise? If not, I'm more inclined to go for the 212, based on weight. Your input is much appreciated, thanks guys!
The 212 is 600 watts & the 410 is 1000 watts. They are both 4 ohms. The specs for both cabs are here http://www.genzbenz.com/?fa=detail&mid=2620&sid=611&cid=96
For volume the Uber410. Suspect greater displacement as its 1watt/1 meter is 103db, the 212 is a great cab but lower displacement and 101db at 1 watt. Yes the 2db is a big deal.
i would expect the Uber 410 to fit your goals better, but what about 2 x NX212's? Would that fit? That might get you a little more round of a tone.
I've got an old Genz Benz NEOX-212T, which seems like kind of a predecessor to the NX-212, and it's one loud cabinet. Never tried the Ubers though.
there's actually a conversion kit available to turn the Toyota Yaris into a fEarful 4x15/4x6. So you wouldn't have to fit anything into the back seat.
I have a Genz Benz 610 XB2 that fits in the back seat of my 99 Camry. Dimensions are (H)44 x (W)25 x (D)18. Measure the back seat of your car. It is actually for sale or trade for a GK RBH 410. email [email protected]
Thanks for the replies guys! agedhorse: Don't get me wrong, if I could get myself 2 NX212's, I would in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, price is an important variable; to get one of these cabs used, I'm looking at $6-800 with shipping. I can justify to myself getting one of them, but that'll have to do, hence my preference for the single loudest unit. As for the GK and other cabs mentioned, I'm not interested, based solely on tone and quality. I forked out a grand as a penniless teenager mowing lawns on my GBE1200 because it's the best amp I've ever heard and/or used. Haven't regretted it since it arrived at my door. Likewise, listening to all the cabs out there on the market, including fancy boutique Berg and Aggie units, the ones that immediately entranced me with their sound were always Genz Benz. I figure I may as well spend a decent chunk now to get something that will perfectly suit any and all needs for the next ten years rather than going with a cheaper option that will still leave me frustrated. And no, I have the sedan version of the Yaris. No fold down seats for me
^^^This.^^^ But the real solution? 1st get transportation w/more cargo space so it'll hold two 410s. Or if you keep the Y****, have LDS build you a 215 w/Eminence KappaLite 3015s.
Punch, volume, grunt, growl......Uber 4x10 takes it in spades. The cab has great clarity too. FWIW, the GBE 1200 and Uber 4x10 is my favorite GB rig.
I would go with the UBER 410T as well. As Hasbeen states, it is an aggressive cab which would match very well with the requirements of your gig. For Genz Benz the GBE 1200/UBER 410T is certainly one of our signature/defining rigs. Sounds like you have a line on one that is available.
The Uber 410 is an svt 810 slayer.. !! Loud, Clear and punchy like all heck... It can get nice growl with a J bass.. 5 string friendly too... On another note, I borrowed my friends Neox212 last week. It is different than the Uber 410.. But for weight, size/footprint , move-ability, loudness and fullness i would not rule it out.. We did an A/B to the Bergantino 212 and honestly, we liked the punch of the Neox over the bergantino.. I wish i had bought a Neox 212 when they were available... Better yet two of them on my GBE1200... But One Neox212 will keep up with any super loud drummer without much issue at all
You mowed lawns on your GBE 1200??? I had no idea that Genz Benz even offered lawns as an option for their amp heads! MM
Volume aside, consider tone. Try out any cab before buying to make sure you like how it sounds. As for volume, think of your goals. First of course there's how many watts you are going to throw at it (luckily power amps that are lightweight and 1,000 watts are pretty affordable!) and also where the volume is needed. Wide stage/club? Outdoor gig? Enclosed garage/basement? That all said, the Uber410 is probably going to do what you want - though in addition to measuring the space in the back seat, also measure your door opening room. I've had things that would physically fit in my car but there was no way to actually get it in without removing a door.
heh heh, yeah man! When they shipped it out to me, they sent little little bag of mixed chia seeds that you got wet and slathered all over the rack. After letting them grow for a week, it was ready to be trimmed