Loudest Genz Benz Cabinet that can fit into a back seat?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by IconBasser, Dec 12, 2014.

  1. IconBasser

    IconBasser Scuba Viking

    Feb 28, 2007
    Fontana, California
    Hey guys! I've been amp shopping, and can't quite make up my mind on which Genz cab to pick up. Paired with a GBE1200, which single cab will offer the most volume? Please keep in mind that their 6x10 and 8x10 cabs are out of the question, I have to be able to fit the cab into my Toyota Yaris for gigs :)

    Up to now, I've used a couple old Carvin Redline cabs, a 2x10 and a 115. I have never gotten enough volume from them. My primary gig is an extreme metal band, so I have to compete with a massively distorted guitarist and a drummer who does cymbal smashes with enough force to fell a water buffalo.
    With the gain and preamp volumes down below 33%, if I turned master volume up to 50% those cabs would distort completely. I actually blew the 115 up last weekend. Hence the reason I'm shopping.

    Right now I'm split between an NX212-T and an Uber410. Is there that much difference between the two, loudness-wise? If not, I'm more inclined to go for the 212, based on weight.

    Your input is much appreciated, thanks guys!
  2. The Regulator

    The Regulator

    Aug 10, 2005
  3. For volume the Uber410. Suspect greater displacement as its 1watt/1 meter is 103db, the 212 is a great cab but lower displacement and 101db at 1 watt. Yes the 2db is a big deal.
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  4. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    i would expect the Uber 410 to fit your goals better, but what about 2 x NX212's? Would that fit? That might get you a little more round of a tone.
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  5. I've got an old Genz Benz NEOX-212T, which seems like kind of a predecessor to the NX-212, and it's one loud cabinet. Never tried the Ubers though.
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  6. FirewalZ


    Aug 14, 2014
    S.E. Michigan
    GK MB212 combo. Very lite and portable but extremely loud
  7. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Are these GB cabs really all available? Cool!
  8. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Yaris hatchback?

    In any case, what if it were not a GB cab? Just wondering...
  9. there's actually a conversion kit available to turn the Toyota Yaris into a fEarful 4x15/4x6. So you wouldn't have to fit anything into the back seat.
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  10. biggredd

    biggredd Supporting Member

    Oct 13, 2011
    I have a Genz Benz 610 XB2 that fits in the back seat of my 99 Camry. Dimensions are (H)44 x (W)25 x (D)18. Measure the back seat of your car. It is actually for sale or trade for a GK RBH 410. email [email protected]
  11. IconBasser

    IconBasser Scuba Viking

    Feb 28, 2007
    Fontana, California
    Thanks for the replies guys!

    agedhorse: Don't get me wrong, if I could get myself 2 NX212's, I would in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, price is an important variable; to get one of these cabs used, I'm looking at $6-800 with shipping. I can justify to myself getting one of them, but that'll have to do, hence my preference for the single loudest unit.

    As for the GK and other cabs mentioned, I'm not interested, based solely on tone and quality. I forked out a grand as a penniless teenager mowing lawns on my GBE1200 because it's the best amp I've ever heard and/or used. Haven't regretted it since it arrived at my door. Likewise, listening to all the cabs out there on the market, including fancy boutique Berg and Aggie units, the ones that immediately entranced me with their sound were always Genz Benz. I figure I may as well spend a decent chunk now to get something that will perfectly suit any and all needs for the next ten years rather than going with a cheaper option that will still leave me frustrated.

    And no, I have the sedan version of the Yaris. No fold down seats for me :(
  12. iualum


    Apr 9, 2004

    But the real solution? 1st get transportation w/more cargo space so it'll hold two 410s.

    Or if you keep the Y****, have LDS build you a 215 w/Eminence KappaLite 3015s.
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  13. hasbeen

    hasbeen Commercial User

    Sep 23, 2004
    Vice President, KMC/JAM USA: Distributor of Ashdown amplification
    Punch, volume, grunt, growl......Uber 4x10 takes it in spades. The cab has great clarity too.

    FWIW, the GBE 1200 and Uber 4x10 is my favorite GB rig.
  14. Jeff Genzler

    Jeff Genzler Commercial User

    Feb 9, 2007
    Brooklyn NY
    I would go with the UBER 410T as well. As Hasbeen states, it is an aggressive cab which would match very well with the requirements of your gig. For Genz Benz the GBE 1200/UBER 410T is certainly one of our signature/defining rigs.

    Sounds like you have a line on one that is available.
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  15. svtb15

    svtb15 Inactive

    Mar 22, 2004
    Austin,TX - McKinney,TX - NY,NY, - Nashville,TN
    I play it all. Whatever works for the gig. Q+
    The Uber 410 is an svt 810 slayer.. !! Loud, Clear and punchy like all heck... It can get nice growl with a J bass.. 5 string friendly too...
    On another note, I borrowed my friends Neox212 last week. It is different than the Uber 410.. But for weight, size/footprint , move-ability, loudness and fullness i would not rule it out.. We did an A/B to the Bergantino 212 and honestly, we liked the punch of the Neox over the bergantino..
    I wish i had bought a Neox 212 when they were available... Better yet two of them on my GBE1200... But One Neox212 will keep up with any super loud drummer without much issue at all
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  16. Mystic Michael

    Mystic Michael Hip No Ties

    Apr 1, 2004
    New York, NY
    You mowed lawns on your GBE 1200??? I had no idea that Genz Benz even offered lawns as an option for their amp heads! :wideyed:

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  17. Volume aside, consider tone. Try out any cab before buying to make sure you like how it sounds. As for volume, think of your goals. First of course there's how many watts you are going to throw at it (luckily power amps that are lightweight and 1,000 watts are pretty affordable!) and also where the volume is needed. Wide stage/club? Outdoor gig? Enclosed garage/basement?

    That all said, the Uber410 is probably going to do what you want - though in addition to measuring the space in the back seat, also measure your door opening room. I've had things that would physically fit in my car but there was no way to actually get it in without removing a door.
  18. Earplugs.
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  19. IconBasser

    IconBasser Scuba Viking

    Feb 28, 2007
    Fontana, California
    heh heh, yeah man! When they shipped it out to me, they sent little little bag of mixed chia seeds that you got wet and slathered all over the rack. After letting them grow for a week, it was ready to be trimmed :)
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