It looks like Musiciansfriend cut some prices on Ibanez BTBs. The standard BTB 5 string, the BTB405QM is a good deal at $594.99, but, that's been the going price since I can remember. It lists for $799.99 Now check this out: The BTB515 which lists for $1,149.99 is now going for $499.00! That's the middle BTB model going for almost $100 less than the basic model! And, the BTB510, which is the 4 string model is going for $549! --- $50 more than the 5 string. It looks like they're trying to unload the 5ers. I'd imagine these are last year's models without the Barts, but, how can you go wrong? If you're even thinking about getting a BTB, go to www.musiciansfriend.com and type in Ibanez BTB in the search box. This is probably one of their unadvertised close-out sales. Check them out. Good luck. Looks like insanity to me. Mike J.