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MAC USERS UNITE!!

Discussion in 'Recording Gear and Equipment [BG]' started by LakLnd5, Nov 16, 2001.


  1. I've read a lot of posts from people with home studios using PC's. I, however, am a MAC guy and would like to hear from any other Mac users out there. Here's a list of the gear I use:

    Studio:
    Macintosh B&W G3/450 w/ 396 MB Ram
    running Digital Performer 2.72 w/ Wave pluggins
    MOTU 1224 Audio Interface
    Mackie 1642 vlz pro
    Alesis 3630 Stereo Compressor
    Alesis Quadraverb II (just for tracking)
    Samson Servo 170 cue amp
    Panasonic sv3800
    Roland jv-1080
    MOTU Midi express
    Neutrik 1/4" 48 point patch bay
    KRK V8 Monitors
    Line 6 POD

    Bass Rig:
    Lakland 55-94
    Demeter VTBP-201s w/Jensen Transformer

    I've got nothing against PC's (I own one). I'm just looking for equal representation! ;)
     
  2. Nobody uses Protools or Digital Performer? You guys have no idea what you're missing out on!

    C'mon, there's gotta be someone out there who uses the mighty Apple. Anybody. . . ? Anybody at all? :(
     
  3. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    Hmm, I get all this - plus VST, plus Rewire....with Nuendo - I don't think I miss anything :D
     
  4. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    I've got yer back, man!

    B/W G3 450/ 396 MB RAM
    Digi Audiomedia III
    DP 2.72
    Protools 5.1 LE
    Mackie 1402 VLZ
    Alesis 3630 compressor
    Korg M1
    Boss DR 660
    Bitheadz Unity DS-1
    El Cheapo acoustic guitar

    Bass rig:

    Modulus Q6
    MM SR5 fretless
    SWR SM400
    Bag End/ EV frankencab
     
  5. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Probably for a lot less money too.
     
  6. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    Probably for a lot less money too.


    Ouch... You have a point.

    It's all personal preference anyway. I grew up on Macs. I learned how to sequence on a Mac. I worked for a Mac software company. So you can see why I choose them. It's a tool.

    I will say this. When I was working for MOTU I saw a B/W G3 running 72 tracks of audio and slaving 4 ADATs and 4 DA-88's all with sample accurate sync. Not bad.
    When I worked at Lexicon I had the dubious honor of rendering at least two PC's useless using Cubase VST. If you're going to go PC by PC NATIVE software not a port. That was one UGLY program.

    It's just my opinion.
     
  7. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    Which version?

    Cubase has some glitches (like all soft), but it's really hard to mess it up IME.
    And you should use an ASIO capable soundcard of course.

    BTW: Reaktor 3 is more stable on PC than on Mac for example, so Mac = stable, PC = crash is not true (anymore).
     
  8. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    Oops. Didn't want to start a Mac Vs. PC thread. VST for windows was pretty new. We're talking '97 or '98.

    I think reactor was developed for windows originally. I may be wrong.

    I am fully aware that macs are just as crash prone as PC's. The win 2k machine I have running at work is solid as anything I've seen. I just know how to set up a mac to make it do what I want it to do.

    I'm very curious to see how OS X works out w/ audio. BeOS looked great but there was no support. Now we've got something similar with a lot of companies scrambling to make use of the features. Of course I'll wait till a couple of development cycles go by before upgrading. And I'll need a computer that can run it.
     
  9. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    I didn't want to start a war either.

    MacOS X looks pretty cool. If they made a PC port I might look into it. But we won't see that -but you just have to like a Multimedia OS with Unix kernel...
     
  10. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    Actually I've heard rumor that people have ported Darwin (the open source version of OS X) over to Intel processors. Now whether Mr. Jobs will allow OS X to be licensed is another story... They got burned the first time. I don't think he'll do it again.
     
  11. Hey, I'm thinking about getting an Apple Mac, seems more reliable than a PC. I thought you guys would be the ones to ask about this. I wanna record music (like you all do) but don't have a clue about recording onto a computer really. If I had an Imac or Ibook, can I just plug the output from a mixer into it somewhere? I'm not looking for amazing quality here, bit of a budget, I'm only 16. Any help would be great, thanks.
     
  12. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    Hey There,

    I don't think that the ibook has any analog audio inputs and I'm not too sure of the iMac either. You'd have to get a USB or firewire audio interface. I think there are a couple reletively inexpensive ones out there. You can get the free version of Protools off of Digidesign.com.
    Don't be fooled about the reliability thang. Macs can be just as finicky as PC's. Go with what you know. If you're used to Windows get a Windows machine. Go to an Apple Store and check them out. Make sure you like the operating system before you plunk your money down. Hope this helps.

    Jon
     
  13. WOW. This was an old post and you guys really took off with it!

    My 2 cents about the OSX thing:

    I messed with OSX.1 on my G3 for awhile. It's a great OS. Very intuitive, stable, pretty, fun etc...
    It's loaded with features that are great for a general use Mac. But one of the things I like about the "Classic" OS is that I can tweak the machine for optimal performance regarding a specific purpose (i.e audio production). To do that in OS X requires someone who's more of a UNIX guru. Which I'm not.

    Yeah, I could get a mega machine like a Dual G4 with a gig o' ram. But when you've got 48 tracks at 48k/24 bit and they all require compressors, eq's, volume and surround automation, and your dragging video along, it's gonna chew up even the fastest of machines. And it's nice to be able to turn off all the junk that you don't need.

    I guess I've grown to have a love/hate relationship with my extensions manager that I don't want to let go of. ;)

    jeff in Chicago
     
  14. Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Don't get me wrong, I actually like MAC and think OSX rocks, but I couldnt afford one after my Mac classic:D. I've been doing the PC thing for a while now and holding high hopes for Linux, so I tend to keep buying components I'm used to.
     
  15. Thanks JBlake, that has helped. Does anyone know why I'm no longer being e-mailed when my posts are replied to? I used to.
     
  16. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    I agree with you Laklnd. I haven't even messed around with OS X. I am a firm believer in "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I like being able to turn a few extensions on or off, trash a couple preferences, and futz with memory allocations (oversimplification I know) to fine tune my system. I've got too much invested in software to switch right now. I'll switch to OS X when I need or can afford to.
     
  17. Don't get me wrong, it's a great OS. But like you, I have WAY too much invested in the old OS. And I'm not even sure that Protools or Digi Performer (the apps I use) make OSX versions yet, or are even planning to.
    What it will probably come down to for me is using OSX on an ibook (that I really want but don't need) and leaving my studio in the 20th century. At least as far as my trusty Blue and White is concerned! :)
     
  18. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    I know DP 3 works on OS X. ProTools probably won't until OS XII comes out. Remember how long it took for them to support the B&W's? I think my all time dream system is: TiBook w/ full allotment of RAM. Two or three MOTU 828's and the Glyph M project. Of course a nice portable board, mics, and outboard gear. Pack it up in couple o' road cases and off you go. Maybe add a Magma chasis with a couple TC PowerCores and a Kyma system..... dammit there go my pants
     
  19. I think my dream system still lies with the folks at Digidesign. Protools still has better pluggies than MOTU in my opinion. 2-3 888's along with 3 or 4 DSP farms all on a dual G4 tower with a gig o' ram... OH MY GOD, WOULD THAT BE SWEET! Have you ever seen Sting's traveling studio? It's pretty much exactly that, aside from the rack full of apogee convertors he totes along.

    Ah, to have money...

    :D
     
  20. jblake

    jblake

    Aug 30, 2001
    Gray, ME
    Laklnd5,

    I was going for the whole mobile thang.
    Get the new Mix magazine. They've got a whole interview with Sting's engineer and they talk about the "Studio in a Rack". You gotta love the custom made SSL in a case he had MADE FOR HIM! Serious tax write off there.
    While you're at it you might as well throw in a ProControl and a couple side cars to that system. :D