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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Casey C., Jul 9, 2003.
How are they? I was thinking of buying them to replace the speakers in a 410 cab I have.
I'm curious also. I came across a link for that site a while ago and have been curious ever since!
Very high Qts, high resonant frequency, 4" voice coils, made in Taiwan to Madison specs.
How do the warrior and the knight compare? the warriors are availble on ebay for about $50 for 2 and the knights are availble on www.steelsound.com for $35 a piece
I picked up one of their 1,000w RMS 18" speakers (the Executioner, perhaps?) to throw into my Peavey 1820 enclosure, and I have been favorably impressed. Looked well built out of the box, and had a TON more gut wrenching low end than the Black Widow 18 it replaced. FWIW, I also threw some Selestion 10's in there (which I got from Parts Express) and the combination is quite good, considering the cost and the fact that it is in a Peavey cab not necessarily designed for these speakers. I did pick up some Madison 10's off ebay, but I haven't had time to try them out yet. The price was too good to pass up, though, and I had images of an "all Madison" 1820 cab.
The Executioner X18 has much better specs, but requires greater than 6 cubic feet.
Their 10" drivers are not acceptable, IMO.
Not sure what the exact volume on that 1820 cab is, but it is pretty darn big. That Madison sounds killer in there. I use it at one of my bands' practice room, and it'll churn your innards if I push it.
Maybe I'll leave those Seleniums in there, then. They really are a quality speaker, and offer great clarity to go along with the 18.
how would http://www.steelsound.com/product.cfm?ProductID=56 compare to an avatar?
I honestly don't think they can but hey, Avatar may not be the only speaker company selling low priced, well made cabs. Someone's got to try them and make a concensus yea or nay!
I'd love to see a review on the Madison and legionsound cabinets.
I haven't been able to A/B with Avatar or Madison, but I did get a chance to listen to some of the cabs that they make up at Low Down Sound near Detroit, MI, and let me tell you, I was very impressed. They make a very GS112-like 1x12, as well as a sweet! sounding coaxial 1x12. Their 1x15 was literally one of the best I have ever heard. They have also made such fun cabs as a 4x8/1x15, an 8x8, and a Triad-like cab. Don let me check out his shop, and I saw some cabs in production. He definitely knows what he is doing. He compares his building style to Epifani (which he carries). Check out their website at www.lowdownsound.com. They will make about anything that you can ask for.
Some other TBers have talked up (excuse the pun) the Nahas cabs, too.
Judging only on the drivers they use I would say they(Madison) would not stack up against the Avatar stuff.
Care to elaborate on the 18's. I would like to know what you think.
That is a dead link! Can you get the correct link? I'd like to check out that site!
how 'bout their 21" sub? that hydra cab (a 21", a 12" and two 8" speakers in a cab) looks pretty cool to me.
I posted a thread about that a while ago, its crazy. I'd really like to hear one of those.
All the specs for the madison speakers are at www.madisonspeakers.com
That link worked for me, but it took a few tries.
Yep. www.lowdownsound.com is it. I haven't had that particular link fail on me yet. Maybe you hit it at a bad time or something.
If you still can't hit it, their e-mail address is:
The Executioner X18 is an accordion type surround, meaning it is intended to get loud. And it does. The best vented alignment for maximum power handling between 32 and 89 Hz is the QB3 alignment: 6.75 cubic feet at 29.6 Hz. Power handling drops to 608 watts at 43 Hz due to Xmax limitations.
Note: Madison does not publish the Xmax figure for their drivers. I guesstimated Xmax as 1/2 of the published Xmech figure. Power handling is directly related to Xmax.
Calculated SPL sensitivity based on T/S data is 94.1, in line with other drivers of this type. This driver will generate 123 SPL at 65 Hz. Again, I'm not surprised because of the large cabinet it requires. The BL (motor strength) is excellent and combined with a 4" voice coil, which will be needed for the heavy cone mass. Voice coil inductance is low for a driver of this size, leading me to believe it is a single layer type. The better drivers are multi-layer and flat wound wire, as this concentrates the maximum amount of coil turns in the magnetic gap.
EBP is 70, which is halfway between 50 (sealed) and 100 (vented), so this driver will be happy in either type enclosure. The D2 sealed box volume is 6.87 cubic feet.
Using the golden rectangle dimensions, the cabinet external size would be 41.38 x 25.63 x 15.88, and the port inside diameter is 6.7" by 11.2" long.
Without the driver or grille, I estimate the weight to be 87 pounds with 3/4" MDF, or 57 pounds using 3/"4 Baltic Birch. This is just a tad smaller than the Ampeg SVT-810 cabinet.
It's a musician owned nightclub's dream!!Build a box so that it's perfect for what it's gonna be doing(in a night club it's there, and stays there usually) and it could be big since it's the sub of the house PA....That would put out some serious booty!