Making a wooden piezo bridge using the graphtech units

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by tjclem, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    I bought a set of these

    http://www.graphtech.com/products/product-detail/pn-8365-00-ghost-5-string-abm-pickups

    I intended to make a wooden bridge to fit them in. After having done a lot of piezo basses using the hipshot bridges I wanted to try something different. I got these VS. the hipshot style ones..

    http://www.graphtech.com/products/b...tring?id=57b5ef7e-435e-47aa-8faa-c4667dccd331

    because it would give me the fine adjustment on the height that the hipshot units wouldn't.

    My intention was to radius a piece of wood to the same radius as my fingerboards then set the inserts in. I can't think of a clean way to cut little pockets for the piezo inserts to set in.

    So I am asking the crew. Any of you done something like this?

    Thanks and I wish you all a very happy New Years.
     
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  2. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol

    I'd like to see how you do this.
     
  3. Geoff St. Germaine

    Geoff St. Germaine Commercial User

    Assuming you want each saddle in it's own pocket, there are a few of options I can think of:

    -cut a slot for each pocket using a router with 5/32" bit and clean up the corners using a chisel
    -cut a single slot for all 5 bridge pieces at once using the 5/32" bit and glue in spacers between the saddle slots (probably only works well with certain woods)
    -depending what you have for chisels you might be able to drill the slots and clean up using a chisel, but this is going to be considerably more work, I would think

    You could probably do the routing with a dremel and base if you have that as well.
     
  4. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol

    You will probably need at least one metal part to support the adjustment screw, otherwise they will puncture through wood eventually.
    Also needed is a way to ground strings in your design.
     
  5. HaMMerHeD

    HaMMerHeD

    May 20, 2005
    I made a slotting jig for jobs like this.

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    I used a simple undersaddle piezo bar pickup (an EMG AT125), so my saddle has a shallow 1/8" slot routed on the bottom. But you could easily place the saddles in the slot and use shims to set string spacing.
     
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  6. michaelwayneharwood

    michaelwayneharwood Builder of the Wastelands Commercial User

    May 1, 2014
    Colorado
    Owner Melodious Resonance Constructs
    I am not trying to derail the thread, but what measurements did you use for the angle for the bridge? Is the treble side right at the scale length?
     
  7. HaMMerHeD

    HaMMerHeD

    May 20, 2005
    Yes, the G string passes the center of the saddle at the 34.0" mark.

    To get the angle, I measured a few guitars and acoustic basses and did a bit of mathing and came up with "about 5 degrees", so I used that. And I made the saddle 1/4" thick so that I could compensate it if necessary.
     
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  8. JustForSport

    JustForSport

    Nov 17, 2011
    I'm doing a similar bridge, but with a different saddle idea,
    but using a single slot with spacers between the saddle sections. Haven't settled on a spacer mat'l yet, tho. Some under saddle piezos use a metal strip for consistency, and the hieght adj screws will need something solid to ride on.
     
  9. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    The problem with that is the photo is so dark you can't really see it
     
  10. Yeah sorry. I couldn't find a better pic
     
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  11. Obese Chess

    Obese Chess Spicy Big Dad Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2005
    Portland, OR
    I know I've seen in-depth photos of that bass on Jens' site, I think it's from the Royals series which are usually pretty extensively documented.
     
  12. michaelwayneharwood

    michaelwayneharwood Builder of the Wastelands Commercial User

    May 1, 2014
    Colorado
    Owner Melodious Resonance Constructs
    The piezo's on the Ritter are "RMC Pickups", and look like they are the 'Bass Excellence" model.
     
  13. tjclem

    tjclem Commercial User

    Jun 6, 2004
    Central Florida
    Owner and builder Clementbass
    Interesting site no prices
     
  14. Obese Chess

    Obese Chess Spicy Big Dad Supporting Member

    Sep 4, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Yeah, not the easiest to navigate, for sure.